Last post on Apr 27, 2007 at 10:13 PM
You are in the BMW X3 & X5
What is this discussion about?
#54 of 76 Baby hauling
Feb 22, 2007 (5:28 pm)
For the posts asking about kids/baby hauling.....
We have a 2007 BMW X3, and a Toyota Sienna 2004 AWD XLE. Our kids are older, but I gotta tell you.... as nice as the X3 is, nothing beats a minivan for moving people and "stuff." With kids, the "push-button" door opening can't be beat. By the time you get the carrier or stroller to the car, the doors are open. And you can reach back and tend to them without opening the doors.
The Sienna cruises at lower RPMs at highway speeds. And when we get there the in-laws can even fit in, we can all go together (is that good or bad?). For camping, I can't see taking the BMW. If I had one to choose, it'd be the van for the kids. (DON'T let the wife see this, she already beats me up for the X3!)
#55 of 76 2007 X3 hesitation on acceleration
Mar 03, 2007 (2:33 pm)
I have an X3 on order, should arrive any day !
When I test drove an X3 I noticed a hesitation from a standing stop.
The salesman said it was due to the cold and a cold engine.
However, I have noticed this topic on other forums:
Some have mentioned that a computer fix will take care of it. At any rate, I am leasing
a BMW, in part, for their reputation for preformance,handeling,etc.
I'm also a bit troubled about CR recent "below average" reliability rating.
Are there any current owners who can shed any light on this........I guess I'm having some buyers remorse before taking delivery !
#56 of 76 Re: reliability of X3
Mar 04, 2007 (8:36 pm)
I, too, am concerned about CR's not recommending the X3. I am thinking of getting rid of an MDX (too big) but am worried about the X3's reliability (or lack thereof). Any bad experiences as to its reliability?
Mar 04, 2007 (8:38 pm)
Why do you say that the X3 blows away the RDX? I'm debating between the two.
#58 of 76 Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:24 am)
You can go back and see some posts about this debate. I bought the X3, for the reasons I posted before. But I don't think it's fair to say one blows away the other. Unless you get a bad example, you can't go wrong with either one.
For us, whatever was on paper didn't settle it, it was the drive that did. As long as my X3 stays reliable, I'll be thrilled ever time I get in it. (Although that "hesitation" is real).
#59 of 76 Re: RDX v. X3 [x3driver]
Mar 05, 2007 (8:37 am)
I read all the posts on the subject. Aside from the hesitation, are there any other issues re reliability? I am going to sell my MDX for a smaller car and can't decide between the reliable Acura RDX and the unknown X3.
#60 of 76 Re: RDX v. X3 [x3driver]
Mar 05, 2007 (9:09 am)
So...x3driver, you are saying that your x3 has the hesitation from a stop and
it is not an objection? Do you just overlook it ? Is it something that becomes less
pronounced after break-in ? I have not taken delivery yet, but it may be a deal breaker
for me ! I have never owned a vehicle, new or used, that exhibited this behavior. And in a BMW ?? Thought this is why they get the big bucks ??
#61 of 76 Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty]
Mar 05, 2007 (9:10 am)
I've heard both good and bad on the X3's reliability ratings. I've always stayed away from cars with less than stellar reliability. We went with the X3 anyway - based in part on the 4 year / 50K mile warranty. Also, the dealer is close to us, and has a reasonable number of loaner cars if the car needs work, and we got the BMW Assist.
We weighed the reliability issue, which, at least statistically, favors the Acura. But the "driving experience" of the BMW was overwhelming, to the point that even with the extra expense (it cost more) and risk, we dove in. We thought the Acura's dash and "attitude" etc was focused more on the car, and less on the drive.
It's all so subjective at this level, thus my quote about the choice being art, not science. All the paper numbers and statistics went out the window when we drove the two. That's not happened in other cars I've bought over the past 25 years. It happened with the Bimmer. One mistake we made, go for the preminum sound, if you go with the X3.
Whatever you do, enjoy the ride!
#62 of 76 Re: 2007 X3 hesitation on acceleration [cincyart]
Mar 06, 2007 (5:19 pm)
You ordered one, now, of course, you DID order a stick?
The auto versions may still have a slight hesitation, but the stick versions none.
Frankly, I have all but given up on the stick shift, so few people even will test drive one, and so few dealers even try anymore to move anyone to do so.
The 6speed BMW auto will, over time (if it is like my Audis auto) kind of learn to drive like a normal (stick) transmission, shifting when you would shift and almost never having any lag.
What little hesitation there is, can be further reduced by driving the car in Sport Mode.
I love the new X3, the new interior, the new power, etc. I wouldn't sweat the sensation you may have felt when test driving.
Hopefully you did extensively test both auto and manual versions.
Despite what you may be thinking, I am at this point, mostly in favor of the auto, as the path of least resistance.
#63 of 76 Re: RDX v. X3 [quiltingatty]
Mar 06, 2007 (5:26 pm)
The RDX is superior in almost every way, while standing still, at a stop light, when parked, etc.
The BMW is superior in almost every way, while driving, cornering, when moving. Not so much when parked though.
Drive AND park in both. Drive them both over the same test route, drive at the limit, brake the car as hard as your leg will press. Enter a turn at the maximum speed you dare, then go +10MPH faster. One car will thrill you, one will scare you.
Too bad the technology and audio system in the BMW is a notch or four less.
Get the BMW with the upscale audio package and Servotronic -- all other options are, of course, options. The nav system works great, but the RDX's is modern. In the end, they both are capable and competent. The RDX's is better.
There is no voice activation on the Bimmer. I miss it most on the phone system, I can dial the radio myself, mostly.
If you care more about how the car feels when stopped, go RDX, if you care more about how the car feels when driven, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you figure it out!