Last post on Jun 05, 2008 at 4:05 PM
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Mazda MX-5 Miata, Convertible
Follow-Up Test: 2007 Mazda MX-5 Miata PRHT - After putting a quick thousand miles on a 2007 Mazda MX-5 Power Retractable Hardtop (PRHT), we think the company's estimate of a 20-30-percent take rate on this option is going to prove low (more)
#66 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [aviboy97]
Jun 02, 2008 (10:39 am)
I knew the Miata offered a lot more equipment content but thanks for spelling it out in detail.
#67 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [ateixeira]
Jun 02, 2008 (10:41 am)
#68 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [ateixeira]
Jun 02, 2008 (2:15 pm)
Again, go to the mazda site, there you will confirm my quoted price $30,505 for their top model with stability control. Stability control and side airbags are standard on the s2000. Thus for 4000 extra dollars you get 30% more horsepower 1.5 - 2 seconds to 60, 10 MPH more at the quarter plus very significantly higher handling limits. An s2000 can match or exceed a Miata's acceleration without having to rev over 6000 RPMS (There are 2300 extra for real competition). BTW I have driven plenty of Miatas, yes they were fun to drive till you wanted any forward motivation which is all the time since the car is a slug.
The miatas hardtop obliterates the entire cargo area when lowered. In the 14 seconds it takes to retract, and s2000 has retracted its top and is reaching 100MPH!
The Miata maybe cute and "fun" but its hardly a sports car. If you buy the stripper, yes, its cheap (slow) fun, if you buy the top version the price is dangerously close to real performance alternatives.
As to the "dated" design that just makes me laugh, first, the design is very similar (both are derivative of british roadsters) and as far as I can tell from the reaction to my S is that it gets more wows and ahhhs than if Maria Sharapova happened to be strolling down the street butt naked. It gets so much attention that its embarassing, particularly since I bought it for its performance not its looks ROLF!
As to styling I wonder why the Miata copied the s2000 rims???? Maybe it is because they want it to "look" like a real sports convertible LOL.
#69 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [6sptl]
Jun 02, 2008 (4:09 pm)
Again, why are you comparing a power hard top MX-5 to the S2000, which is NOT a power hard top?
BTW, the power hard top lowers in 12.5 seconds, the fastest retracting hard top in the industry.
Your statement about the power hard top taking up the "entire cargo area when lowered" shows your complete lack of knowledge. The power hard top takes up NO room in the trunk. NONE!
Also, the MX-5 has 10 spoke wheels, and the S2000 has 5-spoke. The MX-5 has copied nothing from the S2000, since the S2000 has done nothing the MX-5 has not, except for having a stock 237hp engine. The MX-5 has nothing to be envious of from the S2000 either. The S2000 does not sell, it's dead product.
The MX-5 is a true sports car, it happens to have it's own racing circuit. the "MX-5 Cup". See link below.
You know, I get it. You love you S2000. Great. Wonderful. Fantastic. Good for you. However, coming into a MX-5 thread and bashing the car with no knowledge of it just shows immaturity and overall lack of respect. You are just wasting your breath here.
#70 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [aviboy97]
Jun 03, 2008 (6:22 am)
I know the MX5 has a racing club, but its like comparing a wheelchair basketball team with the NBA! Just kidding. I agree the MX5 is a very nice runabout, its just too slow. If they dropped the mazda speed 3 engine in it, then it would be a faboulous sports car.
#71 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [6sptl]
Jun 03, 2008 (8:12 am)
the car is a slug
You should drive a Smart ForTwo, then you'll think the Miata is a race car.
In the 14 seconds it takes to retract
In the hard top equipped S2000 you would not even be half way done.
Apples to apples. Compare soft top to soft top. Hard top to hard top.
The Miata's hard top takes 14 seconds, and I bet the S2000 takes 14 minutes, perhaps less if you have a 2nd person to help you remove it.
I've already shown real-world prices, a soft top Miata tops off around $26 grand, not even in the same price category.
Why are you in a Miata thread? Buyer's remorse? Looking to trade for something with more creature comforts? Or perhaps you want a hard top that doesn't have to be removed manually, with tools and 2 people to do the job?
Why are you here?
If you were truly 100% content with your S2000 you should not be in this thread.
Actions speak louder than words.
Admit it, you're shopping for a Miata.
#72 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [6sptl]
Jun 03, 2008 (8:13 am)
If they dropped the mazda speed 3 engine in it, then it would be a faboulous sports car.
Rumor has it they are working on it. Until that happens, the S2000 is no doubt a faster car. I don't think you will find a find MX-5 owner disagree with you there.
I have a customer that owns a 2005 Mazdaspeed MX-5, and he upgraded the turbo and intercooler and is pumping out 265WHP. That is one mean MX-5.
#73 of 75 Re: Nice car, for a teenage girl [aviboy97]
Jun 03, 2008 (12:46 pm)
I'm seriously considering a high boost kraftwerks supercharger for my S, 350HP! The boosted S2K's are clocking 120mph at the quarter! I'm a hesitant because I'd hate to sacrifice reliability, plus the car is still under warranty. I'll probably wait till the warranty is out, that couple of years should shake out if the company works out and if the gear is solid. Check their website http://www.kraftwerksusa.com/
Jun 05, 2008 (4:05 pm)
When shopping for cars I looked at the S-2000, although the power was a bit better I wasn't happy with the cheap interior(I know the MX-5 is cheap also) but It seemed cheaper to me.. the options on the MX-5 were overall much better, the ride was a lot rougher, louder and gas mileage was much worse on the Honda, and it was 7K more than my loaded PRHT, I thought Mazda had better color choices, and I found no reason to go to the S-2000 site and go bashing them