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SUVs Hyundai Santa Fe Article Comments: Small AWD SUVs Comparison
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Article comments for Comparison Test: Small All-Wheel-Drive SUVs - We've gathered three such vehicles for this comparison: the all-new 2006 Toyota RAV4, the 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe and the 2007 Mazda CX-7. It'd be uncomplicated to call these three "mini SUVs," but when they're loosely based on midsize sedans Toyota Camry, Hyundai Sonata and Mazda 6, it'd be more correct to call them midsize crossovers. (more)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 9:30 pm) I think Toyota/ Honda domination era come to end, same way it happened to domestics in the 80'. Not like they are not good, just competition is not behind them any more. “Available with an optional manual four-wheel-drive system, the Outlander is one of the more affordable four-wheel-drive SUVs on the market ... Surprisingly, the new Outlander seems to outclass its competitors on just about every front" BTW, who do you think will win Paris - Dakkar rally in SUV category this year? Clue - check the winner for last six years. Then come back and talk about reliability of cars made in Japan by Mitsubishi.
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 6:28 pm) I have never said Honda copied anybody, just that styling of the front, back and between do not match. It is like two gloves not from the same pair. Other than that (and performance) it is a fine vehicle. "As for the no V6 option, Honda's goal has always been to have fuel efficient cars" Yes, and the way to do that for SUV is fuel efficient V6 - ex. Toyota RAV4.
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Was wondering if anyone has test driven the new Ford Edge yet? Understand it is now shipping. |
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Replying to: piast (Dec 09, 2006 7:43 am) I found the CR-V to be better than the SF, and I did not look at the CX-7 and I cannot stand the back end of the Outlander. I compared the CR-V to the SF, Equinox/torrent, Escape/Mariner/Tribute, Rav4, Tucson/Sportage. The closest comparison was the SF, but I thought the interior was a little cheap, although better than all the others. I did like the exterior. Another thing I wanted that many competitors did not offer was the navigation system. As for Mitsubishi, I have known people with them and they were not happy overall. They felt they lose value fast, and they were getting fixed a lot. I really do not like the back end of the Outlander, it looks squashed down. I really do not like the third row in the outlander, it is so stupid looking. I like the dash and first and second rows. I really didn't need the third row, but if I got a vehicle with one, I would want it to be OK looking. The vehicle was just not right for me. think Toyota/ Honda domination era come to end, same way it happened to domestics in the 80'. Not like they are not good, just competition is not behind them any more. I see what you mean, but Toyota will be taking over as worlds largest automaker within the next few years. The quality gap is closing between other brands and them, but ToyHon is not sitting still, they are making better cars every year, and having new innovations. Out of Hyundai, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Hyundai in my opinion, is the best. Although I think their resale value could be better.
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Replying to: piast (Dec 09, 2006 8:00 am) Honda prefers 4 cylinders, Honda would not have put a 268 HP in the CR-V. They only put that size engine in Acuras, not even the Pilot has that much horse. It would have been nice for a 250 HP V6, but that is not what honda does. They probably will add a 200 HP V6 for 2008.
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 09, 2006 9:09 am) 2. Most reviews (professional and private) praise new Outlander design, you are alone on this one, but this is personal. Can you point me to any forum with so many bad opinions like Autoblog with CRV about Mitsu? http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/07/honda-opens-another-design-studio-in-cali/ 3."I have known people with them and they were not happy overall" With cars build with Chrysler in Normal, IL maybe, any prove for ones build in Japan? Toyota taking over as recall king as well. From my own experience, our Mitsubishi was as reliable for seven years, as our Honda is so far. 4. I don't like 3rd row seat in Outlander too, but this is “me too” approach in many SUV’s of this size.
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 09, 2006 9:15 am)
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Replying to: piast (Dec 08, 2006 7:59 am) I owned and enjoyed manual shift vehicles in the past so I was not comfortable with the paddles. I already had a portable GPS so that didnt move me much. I must say the HID's look absolutely awesome. I think Outlander is a great SUV. My final choice came down to the AWD, a little more power and the blue back lit dash on the Santa Fe.
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Replying to: pelican19 (Dec 09, 2006 10:42 am) |
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Replying to: piast (Dec 09, 2006 10:00 am) 2. In my opinion, the back end of the Outlander looks squashed down. All I was saying that, I know people who have had Mitsubishi's and were not impressed. They no longer own those (Galant, Diamante, Montero). 3. I am not sure where the cars were built, but that is what my friends were saying about them. I have read about Toyota recalls increasing, and that is not good. In any case, the Toyota's are still better than any Domestic. 4. I just think the third row seat is funky looking, I was looking at the picture on Mitsu's site, and it looks very thin (just opinion).
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