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Mazda CX-7, Toyota RAV4, Hyundai Santa Fe, SUV
#85 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [piast]
Dec 09, 2006 (9:09 am)
I personally think Santa Fe, CX7 or Mitsubishi Outlander look better, are more fun, have more space, more power, better handling and performance, and better value.
I found the CR-V to be better than the SF, and I did not look at the CX-7 and I cannot stand the back end of the Outlander. I compared the CR-V to the SF, Equinox/torrent, Escape/Mariner/Tribute, Rav4, Tucson/Sportage. The closest comparison was the SF, but I thought the interior was a little cheap, although better than all the others. I did like the exterior. Another thing I wanted that many competitors did not offer was the navigation system.
As for Mitsubishi, I have known people with them and they were not happy overall. They felt they lose value fast, and they were getting fixed a lot. I really do not like the back end of the Outlander, it looks squashed down. I really do not like the third row in the outlander, it is so stupid looking. I like the dash and first and second rows. I really didn't need the third row, but if I got a vehicle with one, I would want it to be OK looking. The vehicle was just not right for me.
think Toyota/ Honda domination era come to end, same way it happened to domestics in the 80'. Not like they are not good, just competition is not behind them any more.
I see what you mean, but Toyota will be taking over as worlds largest automaker within the next few years. The quality gap is closing between other brands and them, but ToyHon is not sitting still, they are making better cars every year, and having new innovations.
Out of Hyundai, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Hyundai in my opinion, is the best. Although I think their resale value could be better.
#86 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [piast]
Dec 09, 2006 (9:15 am)
I see what you mean, but I really like the back end look, and I can live with the front end look.
Honda prefers 4 cylinders, Honda would not have put a 268 HP in the CR-V. They only put that size engine in Acuras, not even the Pilot has that much horse. It would have been nice for a 250 HP V6, but that is not what honda does. They probably will add a 200 HP V6 for 2008.
#87 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8]
Dec 09, 2006 (10:00 am)
1. Navigation is available on Outlander and CX7
2. Most reviews (professional and private) praise new Outlander design, you are alone on this one, but this is personal. Can you point me to any forum with so many bad opinions like Autoblog with CRV about Mitsu?
3."I have known people with them and they were not happy overall" With cars build with Chrysler in Normal, IL maybe, any prove for ones build in Japan?
Toyota taking over as recall king as well. From my own experience, our Mitsubishi was as reliable for seven years, as our Honda is so far.
4. I don't like 3rd row seat in Outlander too, but this is “me too” approach in many SUV’s of this size.
#88 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8]
Dec 09, 2006 (10:06 am)
I am sorry, from all these posts about the CRv, would someone point out one advantage to this vehicle? I see it being kicked by every Suv in class?! Serious were does this car shine so we would talk about it? The dash setup and the shifter looks like an Odyssey. The Exterior seems to not make any sense(it hits me as a Buick from one side, and as a Hyundai from another?)..performance? room? A question: How many of these vehicle would be sold if it had a different badge? Great value?
#89 of 154 Re: Sante Fe: Go test drive this vehicle! [piast]
Dec 09, 2006 (10:42 am)
Please dont take offense. In my reply " I " knew " I " was missing something. When I went to the site to configure the Outlander " Fully Loaded " as you stated, the price was $ 34,790.00. Based on your second response I now understand.
I owned and enjoyed manual shift vehicles in the past so I was not comfortable with the paddles. I already had a portable GPS so that didnt move me much. I must say the HID's look absolutely awesome.
I think Outlander is a great SUV. My final choice came down to the AWD, a little more power and the blue back lit dash on the Santa Fe.
#90 of 154 Re: Sante Fe: Go test drive this vehicle! [pelican19]
Dec 09, 2006 (11:18 am)
I'm glad we are on the same page now. You must have added same equipment as package and accessory again. I still have not decided which SUV will replace mine. Sure Santa Fe, Outlander and Mazda are on the short list, but who knows? I still have soft spot for Subaru Outback. Enjoy your new car and drive safely.
#91 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [piast]
Dec 09, 2006 (1:31 pm)
1. I know about the available navigation in both models, but I do not like the look of the Outlander and I had already purchased my CR-V , when I was researching CX-7
2. In my opinion, the back end of the Outlander looks squashed down. All I was saying that, I know people who have had Mitsubishi's and were not impressed. They no longer own those (Galant, Diamante, Montero).
3. I am not sure where the cars were built, but that is what my friends were saying about them. I have read about Toyota recalls increasing, and that is not good. In any case, the Toyota's are still better than any Domestic.
4. I just think the third row seat is funky looking, I was looking at the picture on Mitsu's site, and it looks very thin (just opinion).
#92 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [sssfegy]
Dec 09, 2006 (1:43 pm)
The CR-V is better than most other small SUV's in its class when it comes to interior. Those include Tucson/Sportage, Rav4, Escape/Mariner/Tribute, Equinox/Torrent. The interior is simple and I think it is also a bit classy. It has nice plastics, very good leather, it has more room than you think inside. The exterior on the other hand is up to the beholder. I happen to like it, some people hate it (although I am not in love with it). As said in other posts, it is not super powerful (not like the RDX, or CX-7) but it is fine for highway merging and cruising. I do think that what helps it sell is because it is a Honda, but what is the problem with that, it is a good car. It has great quality, and you can not forget about the resale value. Compared to its biggest competitor, the Rav4, it is a great value.
The Outlander, the Santa Fe, the CX-7, and the CR-V are all good buys, it just is up to your priorities in a car.
#93 of 154 Re: Sante Fe: Go test drive this vehicle! [pelican19]
Dec 09, 2006 (2:11 pm)
Taking one's time and testing several different vehicles is important plus checking prices at different dealerships.
Many folks worry about saving a few bucks on a vacation but then don't think anything of spending more than they should for a vehicle.
#94 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8]
Dec 09, 2006 (2:11 pm)
"The interior is simple and I think it is also a bit classy."
Is it like "a bit pregnant"?