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You are in the Toyota RAV4
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Mazda CX-7, Toyota RAV4, Hyundai Santa Fe, SUV
#105 of 154 Re: Ford Edge Horsepower [srdriver]
Dec 10, 2006 (12:04 pm)
This is true, but performance numbers are not that good. Check review in DEC Motor Trend, SUV of the Year contest. It's 0-60 mph of 8.0 sec is worse than RAV4, CX7 or XL7 (Outlander 8.1 sec, Santa Fe 8.5 sec) , slalom and lateral acceleration worse than all of them including Mitsu, Santa Fe and CRV, braking 60-0 mph of 142 ft worst of all, same for fuel economy (18/23 mpg). Tod Lassa wrote: :"Santa Fe easily bests it for refinement and interior quality...its slalom, skidpad and figure 8 numbers are worse than the GMC Yukon Denali's...on-road driving experience is no day at the beach, either. The new 3.5 V6 is trashy under full throttle...The Edge doesn't have what it takes to help solve Ford's problems'
#106 of 154 Re: Opal Antara [srdriver]
Dec 10, 2006 (12:18 pm)
"The Saturn variant will be assembled in Mexico"
Can it be any more complicated? Korean designed and build Daewoo, sold as Opel Antara in Europe, will be assembled in Mexico and sold as Saturn here. How about exporting it from USA to Canada and back to Asia as Chevy.
#107 of 154 Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [piast]
Dec 10, 2006 (2:52 pm)
I was just saying what the car looked like from the pictures, and I could tell I was not interested in the Outlander. This whole point of this forum is to voice your opinion and that is what I have done. As for what I said about my friends mitsubishis, you and other people were saying Mitsu's reliability was good and I was just bringing up the other Mitsu's that were not good. I know we are comparing CUV's, but we were talking brands and I was talking about brands and the other cars of a certain brand. I have driven the competition, and the CR-V impressed me the most. I am NOT saying the Outlander rides bad, of bad quality interior, or is slow, or anything else I could not possibly know or be able to tell. I was just saying what thought of the back end and the third row looks, from the pictures. All I did in the post you are referring to, was answer the four points.
#108 of 154 Re: Ford Edge Horsepower [piast]
Dec 10, 2006 (3:17 pm)
The Edge doesn't have what it takes to help solve Ford's problems'
Definatly true. The edge is way over priced and the only somewhat innovation in it is the vista roof (although competitors do have that so maybe not). But even that is dumb, it weighs waaay too much. Making the Edge a slower vehicle. The interior will never compete with others, no Ford does. If this car rides anything like Escape, it is crap, if it rides like CX-7 (same platform), or even the RDX, it can compete, lets hope it does, for Fords sake.
Ford has many problems. They can't seem to do anything right these days. The Escape is a joke and interior is probably one of the worst in the segment. The Freestyle is boxy and boring...and under powered-for how big it is.
#109 of 154 Re: Ford Edge Horsepower [carfreak8]
Dec 10, 2006 (6:28 pm)
I should add that I feel that the CX-7 is a much better buy than the Edge.
#110 of 154 I am shopping for one...
Dec 19, 2006 (2:29 pm)
Comments please.. I read the article and have to ask about RESALE value in 4 years on each. I am guessing the Honda holds its value better?
Anyone can email me about the Santa Fe, Saturn Vue, and the Honda CRV.. I am looking at all three 2007's and I am really torn. Mileage is terrible.. warranties are not the same... eeek!.
#111 of 154 Re: I am shopping for one... [jennafl]
by steve_ HOST
Dec 19, 2006 (2:40 pm)
Check out Edmunds' True Cost to Own tool for the models you are interested in.
#112 of 154 Re: I am shopping for one... [jennafl]
Dec 19, 2006 (4:37 pm)
While everyone's priorities are different, for me the most important criteria when evaluating a new vehicle is safety. If a vehicle can keep me and my family alive and unhurt during an accident, other qualities like looks, comfort, and performance seem relatively unimportant.
To that end, I would nix the Saturn Vue from my list. You cannot get vehicle stability control on it. Side airbags are also not available. I would never even consider a vehicle without these basic necessities. Not when most others offer them, often standard.
That leaves you with the CRV and the Santa Fe. Both are great vehicles. The Santa Fe weighs about 500 pounds more and is therefore at a slight advantage in safety (but now we're splitting hairs). You need to spend quality time with each vehicle, both on the road and going over them at the dealerships. Read as many reviews on each as you can find. I'm sure one will eventually capture your heart. Which one would you most like to show off to your family and friends?
The Santa Fe won me over. I have a red Limited with the sunroof and third row seat. But then, I was looking for a vehicle with third row seating. I absolutely love driving it. I'm sure you can find any number of CRV owners who feel the same way about their vehicles. Either way you go, you're a winner.
#113 of 154 Re: I am shopping for one... [davesuv]
Dec 19, 2006 (4:51 pm)
Insert Twighlight Zone theme.
That is the EXACT Santa FE that I want (but I want black interior rather than tan which seems to be hard to find).
I want the third row because "every once and awhile" I need to seat six.
Unreal. Thanks for the input. I will still drive them both... my brother has a Vue.. I was just not that impressed.. and the Santa Fe warranty.. good heavens...
What kind of mileage are you getting? Why did you not look at the Mazda ? Just curious. J
#114 of 154 Re: I am shopping for one... 
Dec 19, 2006 (9:14 pm)
I've commented a couple of times on my mileage. You can check them out at message 15 and message 44 in the MPG thread.
Also, I did not look at the Mazda because I specifically wanted the third row seating, not offered in the Mazda. I'm also not really a fan of turbocharged engines. Maybe a younger crowd might appreciate them, but I'd prefer a lower rpm quieter engine. The Santa Fe Limited has more than enough power for my driving style. I still think the RX7 is a nice vehicle and would likely be a great match for many. I've not looked into its safety.
The RAV4 is another great vehicle, but did not meet my requirements for both 3rd row seating and heated seats (nope you can't get leather interior with heated seats if you get the third row - a pity). I also like the interior better in the Santa Fe. I am a big Toyota fan and own a Highlander, which my son drives. Now that's a nice SUV, but the Highlander is due for a makeover soon and I didn't want two of the same kind of car.
For my specific requirements and desires, all the stars aligned and pointed to the Santa Fe. Never thought I'd be owning a Hyundai, but if things keep up the way they've been going, it will definitely be a brand I closely look at when it next becomes time for a replacement vehicle (hopefully in about 10 yrs).