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Article comments for Comparison Test: Small All-Wheel-Drive SUVs - We've gathered three such vehicles for this comparison: the all-new 2006 Toyota RAV4, the 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe and the 2007 Mazda CX-7. It'd be uncomplicated to call these three "mini SUVs," but when they're loosely based on midsize sedans Toyota Camry, Hyundai Sonata and Mazda 6, it'd be more correct to call them midsize crossovers. (more)


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#63 of 151
Re: Sante Fe: Go test drive this vehicle! [pelican19] by piast
Dec 08, 2006 (7:59 am)
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Replying to: pelican19 (Dec 07, 2006 8:54 pm)

"soars well above 30k"?????
XLS AWD Outlander at 25K come standard with 3rd row seat, 6 speed trany w. paddle shifters, intelligent keyless entry/ start system, etc. You will pay 28.8 K for above plus heated leather seats, sunroof, 650 W premium audio, and Xenon headlights.
Fully loaded with navigation cost 30.615
AWD Limited Santa Fe with packages to match cost 30.8K (Touring + Premium), or 33.4K (Touring + Ultimate) but still without HID headlights, Navigation or FAST key.
Are you sure I have missed something? Limited Santa Fe cost 27.9K.
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Autobytel 2007 Editors’ Choice Awards by joe97
Dec 08, 2006 (1:43 pm)
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Autobytel 2007 Editors’ Choice Awards:
 
Mid-size SUV of the Year: Hyundai Santa Fe (unanimous selection)
SUV of the Year: Hyundai Santa Fe (unanimous selection)
 

 
http://www.autobytel.com/content/shared/articles/templates/index.cfm/article_id_- int/2305
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Hey! The CR-V won too by carfreak8
Dec 08, 2006 (3:18 pm)
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Autobytel 2007 Editors' Choice Award
 
Best New Small SUV: Honda CR-V
 


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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8] by piast
Dec 08, 2006 (3:56 pm)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 3:18 pm)

I don’t want to spoil your enthusiasm, but not to many people I now like the new body on CRV. I love Honda for what it is (we own 05 Accord), but this one was definitely designed with women in mind, with soft lines, and no V6 option. Yes it has good fit and finish, interior is nice, but the exterior is just mix of strange lines, like put together from parts from different cars. Sure many people will buy it, sure it will get good revives, because this is a Honda, and it is a good car, just not too pretty or special in any way. I think the goal was to make one different than Element, and in that they delivered.
Here is a sample of other people opinion on AUTOBLOG:
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/12/07/honda-opens-another-design-studio-in-cali/
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [piast] by carfreak8
Dec 08, 2006 (6:28 pm)
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Replying to: piast (Dec 08, 2006 3:56 pm)

but not to many people I now like the new body on CRV
 
OK, why are sales up so much. In the first month of availability, the CR-V had almost 20,000 sales (~95% increase), when they want to sell only 60,000 in the whole year. As for the comment about being designed for women, that is the freely expressed by Honda target buyer and that is how it has always been. Also, the exterior is an opinion thing, and obviously that is not hurting sales. There is one thing you can't dispute, the tire off the back of the car. As for the no V6 option, Honda's goal has always been to have fuel efficient cars, and that is exactly what it did.
 
The interior in the CR-V is soooo much better than any of its competitors, such as the Rav4, Tucson/Sportage, Escape/Mariner/Tribute, Equinox/Torrent. It has very good in quality, fit and finish, materials, and ergonomics.
 
but the exterior is just mix of strange lines, like put together from parts from different cars
 
You want to talk about taking designs from other automakers, why don't you go look at the Hyundai Entourage/Sedona, Sonata, Azera (go look at my post a few days ago in the Santa Fe forum).
 
I think the goal was to make one different than Element, and in that they delivered.
 
If Honda did not want the two vehicles to look the same, they would not have designed the Element the way they did. The Element was introduced a year later (2003) than the second generation CR-V. All Honda wanted to do was make something not so boring and boxy, and they delivered that.
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8] by cxrabbit
Dec 08, 2006 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 6:28 pm)

"because this is a Honda, and it is a good car, just not too pretty or special in any way."
 
I gotta agree with this statement. It's all subjective of course, but for me there was just nothing "special" about the CR-V. I took a close look at it, and it was the runner-up to the CX-7 I ended up buying, but in the end it was too much money and lacked features. I was also concerned about the 4-cylinder and the reviews that said it struggled more with highway merging and passing. Yup, it's a trade-off to get one with turbo that isn't nearly as fuel effificient, but the CR-V was just plain boring to drive.
 
No doubt it's an excellent CUV... it's a Honda for cryin' out loud. I just didn't like it the way I liked the CX-7.
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8] by joe97
Dec 08, 2006 (7:17 pm)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 3:18 pm)

I didn't post it because the CR-V is not a choice in this forum. There are other forums more relevant to the CR-V, just not this.
 
You didn't post a front shot of the CR-V
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [cxrabbit] by carfreak8
Dec 08, 2006 (7:19 pm)
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Replying to: cxrabbit (Dec 08, 2006 6:50 pm)

"because this is a Honda, and it is a good car, just not too pretty or special in any way."
 
I did not say this, The guy I was replying to before said this.
 
I do have to agree with you about the 4 cylinder, it is not the strongest or most powerful thing on the road by any means, but it really is not a problem. I don't have a problem with merging or highway cruising. I do have to somewhat agree with you about how it rides. It does not have the really fun spirit, I mean it is not fast. But, it is not meant to be, it is smooth, quiet, and nice. This is not anything like the CX-7, that is fast, and spunky.
 
As for the price, it is very competitive, you can get a 2007 Honda CR-V AWD EX-L w/navigation for only $500 than a 2007 Rav4 4x4 Limited 4-cylinder w/leather and sunroof. That is a competitive price for its biggest competitor.
 
I really don't think the CX-7 is all that bad, nor is the CR-V.
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8] by joe97
Dec 08, 2006 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 6:28 pm)

OK, why are sales up so much. In the first month of availability, the CR-V had almost 20,000 sales (~95% increase), when they want to sell only 60,000 in the whole year.
 
You might like to double check on that. The first month sales of 20K units contain 06s, actually, quite a few 2006 models
 
The interior in the CR-V is soooo much better than any of its competitors, such as the Rav4, Tucson/Sportage, Escape/Mariner/Tribute, Equinox/Torrent. It has very good in quality, fit and finish, materials, and ergonomics
 
So why are we talking about the CR-V in here?
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Re: Hey! The CR-V won too [carfreak8] by sampowers
Dec 08, 2006 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: carfreak8 (Dec 08, 2006 7:19 pm)

Sorry dude, I love Honda, I have owned two of them. But the new CR-V's front end still looks like this guy-------->
 
I really think you are employed by Honda, b/c you don't frequent the CR-V boards as often as you post here. How much is Honda paying you for all this advertisement? As it has been said in the past by may other posters...beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Not everyone cares about your values in a vehicle.
 
BTW my wife HATES the CR-V's styling. So, it's defiantly not for every woman.

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