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Article Comments: Small AWD SUVs Comparison

151 messages,  Last post on Mar 30, 2007 at 4:39 PM

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What is this discussion about? Mazda CX-7, Toyota RAV4, Hyundai Santa Fe, SUV

Article comments for Comparison Test: Small All-Wheel-Drive SUVs - We've gathered three such vehicles for this comparison: the all-new 2006 Toyota RAV4, the 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe and the 2007 Mazda CX-7. It'd be uncomplicated to call these three "mini SUVs," but when they're loosely based on midsize sedans Toyota Camry, Hyundai Sonata and Mazda 6, it'd be more correct to call them midsize crossovers. (more)


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Re: Bra screen [jennafl] by pelican19
Jan 13, 2007 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: jennafl (Jan 13, 2007 10:19 am)

Jenna,
 
The dealer suggests you remove it twice a year and give the truck a good detailing ( wax ). I suggest removing it each time you have it washed and wax the car 3 times a year IMO. Cant hurt. Dirt will get under it and collect. Be warned, it is a pain to install the first time until it stretches. Once the bra has aclimated to the shape of the truck its a breeze to remove and re-install. Visit my carspace site and you can see the one I installed on my wifes 07 Entourage SE. I will have a pic of the Santa Bra soon. As for the canoe the answer is yes unless its gross weight exceeds 175lbs.
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Re: I am shopping for one... [steve_] by sssfegy
Jan 15, 2007 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 29, 2006 7:48 pm)

Just checked that link..seems to me it's paid for by Honda. Check a Mazda3 on it, then go try to buy one for the price they think it will depreciate! You'll pay list for them.
Please reply with an example..but this link is useless.
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Re: I am shopping for one... [sssfegy] by steve_ HOST
Jan 15, 2007 (6:07 pm)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Jan 15, 2007 5:58 pm)

What you can sell your used car for is different than the price a dealer will sell the same car for - that gap is noted when you Appraise your used car. That's why there are Trade-In, Private Party and Dealer Retail prices listed for used cars and there is about a $2,000 difference between trade in and retail price for a 2005 Mazda3i, as one example (link).
 
If you are buying new then your target to beat is True Market Value.
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Re: I am shopping for one... [steve_] by sssfegy
Jan 16, 2007 (9:50 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 15, 2007 6:07 pm)

Sure these numbers are posted on a site as an estimate (guide) that has NOTHING to do with the market. Here is the same car(05 Mazda3I 4door) here is what you can but it for at auction if you have a license(Manheim):
 
Auction Averages For Week Ending Jan 11
            Above Average Below
Sale Price $13,463 $11,585 $ 9,707
Mileage 18,065 31,484 44,903
 
Average Auction Mileage 31484 ($11,585!!!!)
 
This is as of last week...your dealer retail is what dealers are paying for it in REAL life!
 
Here is the Civic...your Edmunds trade is: $9528 (5M DX)
 
Auction:
Auction Averages For Week Ending Jan 11
             Above Average Below
Sale Price $12,664 $11,328 $9,992
Mileage 13,552 27,104 40,656
  
 So the Mazda is bringing MORE money with more miles!!!! Unlike what your"Guide" says.
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Re: I am shopping for one... [sssfegy] by steve_ HOST
Jan 16, 2007 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: sssfegy (Jan 16, 2007 9:50 am)

The Edmunds True Market Value (TMV) is our exclusive system for calculating what others are paying for new and used vehicles, based on real sales data from your geographic area. (link, emphasis added).
 
Since we're getting more and more off-topic, please take this to the Edmunds Pricing & TMV discussion.
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Go Braless by ojaijohn
Jan 22, 2007 (9:00 am)
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I had a vinyl bra on a '95 T-Bird that did far more paint damage than if no bra had been installed. It was removed each week and the hood was waxed once each month, but the small grit that collected under it between cleanings acted as sandpaper and really wore down the paint. If you put one of these on your car you will regret it.
 
The day we bought a new Accord for the Mrs. we took it to a tint shop and had the clear 3M film applied. Two years later the hood still looks like new. No difference in paint color and the film has not yellowed. A much better choice than vinyl paint protection.
 
3M link "http://www.invisiblemask.com/site.html">link title
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Re: I am shopping for one... [steve_] by vbbuilt
Jan 22, 2007 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 16, 2007 10:32 am)

What's not mentioned is that this isn't an Edmunds service, but rather, uses Autotrader.com to get the desired info.
 
Vince.
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Re: I am shopping for one... [vbbuilt] by steve_ HOST
Jan 22, 2007 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: vbbuilt (Jan 22, 2007 10:49 am)

I think you are confusing our proprietary TMV info with our Used Car sales partner (Powered by AutoTrader). Last I heard we get sales prices from all over but I'm not exactly privy to the details.
 
TMV is exclusively an Edmunds.com system. (link and another link fyi)
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Re: Cute Utes [vbbuilt] by defreitasm
Jan 24, 2007 (7:48 am)
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Replying to: vbbuilt (Dec 29, 2006 4:41 am)

It was new to me when I read it. LOL
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Nissan Rogue - another option by carrito
Feb 16, 2007 (3:55 pm)
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I am thinking of buying a SUV this fall or by the end of the 2007 year. I like very much the SF my only concern is the mpg. Nissan will have the Rogue that goes on sale this fall with same looks (exterior) as the SF but with a 4 cylinder engine 2.5 liter motor 170hp and a CVT it promisses better mpg. not so sure I'll like the interior as much as the SF.
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