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#180 of 327 Re: Where do I get a TCH NAV DVD? [mdchachi]
Nov 27, 2007 (7:40 am)
The bad news is that I have Version 6.1 and, unfortunately, I still cannot get the correct address even when I put in the city first. It may just be me but I don't know what I could be doing wrong. Again, most address do work but
The good news (hopefully!) is that Version 7.1 was just released. I am hoping it will be better. Give me a few days and I will write up a review here.
On a related note, I ended up getting my wife a Freedom Keychain GPS and it is absolutely fantastic. It gets her everywhere, is so small and unobtrusive that she can take it everywhere, like when jogging or biking (it actually fits on her keychain), and is incredibly accurate. The only "downsides" are that you must use it with a third-party smartphone with third-party GPS software (she uses a Sprint Treo 700p with TeleNav). Absolutely fantastic; it saved me the expense of getting her a new 2008 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited.
#181 of 327 Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System
Nov 27, 2007 (8:43 am)
I'm going to post my gripes here and hope I'm doing something wrong and someone will happily, snidely tell me what to do to get things to work:
1). No turn-by-turn voice. This is the biggest issue since it's safety related. It requires you to watch the screen constantly which is an obvious danger. I do have the two voice options turned on and from the time it tells me to get to the highlighted route until I actually get to my destination, the system is silent.
2). No auto recalculation. I have other nav systems in other cars and if I deviate from the listed route, it will automatically recalculate my new route. This system just ignores any changes. If a road is closed or there is a detour it won't take that into account once I'm off the road.
3). Voice recognition is poor. When driving I can only use the voice activation to get an address listed, but the voice recognition is poor to terrible. As a test it took me 30 mins to get an address in. I actually was at the address by time it took it and even then told me that address didn't exist, and I was sitting in the parking lot.
4). Address database is substandard. Of the dozen or so times I've tried to use the system, it's found the address only once.
5). The menu system and path to follow to do anything is anything but intuitive. This has to be the most confusing set of menus and options I have ever seen.
I have a 2003 Acura MDX and I have yet to open the book on it's nav system and both my wife and I have never had any real trouble figuring out how to make it work. We also had a 2001 Lexus and it's nav system was on the same par as the Acura's, easy to use and accurate. I also have a Garmen and while much smaller, is still easy to use.
Can anyone address or suggest what to do about any of the above items?
Thanks in advance and sorry for such a long post.
#182 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [bitstone]
Nov 27, 2007 (12:47 pm)
First of all, I must reply to your questions by asking another question. What version of the NAV do you have, 6.1 or 7.1?
The reason I ask is because I am about to upgrade from 6.1 to 7.1. Moreover, it seems like performance was compromised a bit for those who "upgraded" from 5.1 to 6.1. I initially had 6.1 and cannot comment first hand but I do remember a few posts from TCH owners who did upgrade complaining about a few things; plus I cannot get at least one address from a 5.1 owner can get [see above].
My fear is that 7.1 will prove to be even worse than 6.1.
Not exactly answers to your questions/gripes -- I'll try to provide more details next time I am in my car and can investigate further -- but:
1) Turn-by-turn voice works fine in my 2007 TCH with 6.1. In fact, one of my gripes is that I wish the thing would shut-up a bit. If you have the system turned on, which you seem to have, it should work. I will investigate further when I get back in my car.
2) Auto-recalculation works fine in my car. This may be the only NAV feature that I have not complained about. If it is not working, I would have the dealer take a look at it.
3) Voice recognition is poor, no ifs, ands, or buts about it. However, from personal experience, I have not find any that I really like. Of course, YMMV.
4) Yes! See my rants above. Indeed, it is in the hopes of a better address database taht I am upgrading to version 7.1.
5) I thought the same thing when I first got my TCH but after a bit of time (using only my TCH NAV) it began to make sense to me. It's different but it really isn't that bad.
All in all, like you, I think Acura has a better navigation system. But some of the problems and frustrations you are experiencing seem more particular to your system; or at least I hope it is not endemic to version 7.1. As I wrote above, I will investigate later and get back with you with more details.
#183 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [newcars]
Nov 27, 2007 (1:04 pm)
When I get home tonight I'll check into the version. I would expect that since I only purchased the car two months ago, it should be 7.1, but maybe not. And I also forgot another major gripe.
6). The system does not seem to have a clue on what road you are currently on. I was cruising north on a major expressway in Atlanta, and using the voice system told it to take me home. It told me to jump onto a side road that had access to a cross interstate. The only problem was that side road had no access to the expressway that I was on. The fact that I was already on an expressway that took me to my destination was lost to the system. it wanted me to cross the swale and drive down an enbankment to get to that other road.
#184 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [bitstone]
Nov 27, 2007 (6:06 pm)
Welcome to Toyota GPS systems... and then you compare it to Honda's which is top rated. If you can't get from here to there with the TCH's nav system... don't be surprised.
It is not intuitive or have sufficient mapping. I drive with my Garmin, which I had in my other car. I would be interested to know if 7.1 works and if it does, how to get it.
Otherwise.. love my car.
#185 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [bitstone]
Nov 27, 2007 (6:41 pm)
My system is version 6.1. When did 7.1 come out? If longer than a month ago I'm going to bust my dealers chops since it should have been included.
But nevertheless, I've been working on it all night and no recalculation nor voice directions. I think it's time to harass the dealership.
#186 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [bitstone]
Nov 27, 2007 (8:51 pm)
I don't think it's possible to turn the recalculation feature off. What happens when you drive off the route?
#187 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [mdchachi]
Nov 28, 2007 (5:11 am)
Not a damn thing. You can just watch the highlighted route roll off the screen as you move further and further away from it.
Reading these posts have convinced me that something is wrong with the system. The lack of voice directions, no recalculations, and the inability for it to recognize what road you're on, all indicates a flawed system.
I'm going to go the the dealership and demand it's replacement with a version 7.1 system.
#188 of 327 Re: Issues with my 2008 Camery Nav System [bitstone]
Nov 28, 2007 (7:08 am)
I think your NAV is broke. I have version 5.1 in my brand new Sequoia. It is far from good. However it does recalculate each time I deviate from the prescribed route. I wish it would learn the best way. It is not a real smart NAV system. Knowing what I know now I would NOT have purchased the vehicle with NAV or entertainment which I did not need anyway. Toyota needs to catch up with the industry on their sound systems and electronics. Live and learn. I would scream to Toyota for sure. I plan to document all the issues with mine and make a fuss.
The NAV took me about 30 miles out of my way in Phoenix on Monday. I should have taken my AAA maps and did not, thinking the NAV would be useful. Big mistake with gas at 3 bucks per gallon. It has no listing for Dillard's department stores outside the metro area. Take a map is my suggestion with a Toyota NAV system.
Nov 29, 2007 (5:26 pm)
On my 06 Highlander, I had to set the system to recalculate a route. The default was set at no recalc. It was also set to avoid all toll roads. IMO the Toyota system is a POS. It sometimes makes gross errors and will not accept some valid addresses. I recently drove a friends truck from central PA to a remote address in Tenn using a Tom-Tom. It worked flawlessly.