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Nissan Sentra vs. Honda Civic

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What is this discussion about? Nissan Sentra, Honda Civic, Car Comparisons, Sedan

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#10 of 226 Re: Sentra vs. KIA Spectra [alpha01] by thegraduate

Feb 02, 2006 (12:18 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Feb 02, 2006 10:30 am)
You are very right about the numbers not meaning much, and I'm sorry that I came across like that; it wasn't my intention. I'm not trying to "bash" the Sentra in any way, but I was a little surprised that Nissan, the first company with a 5-speed manual, 240 hp family sedan for $23k wasn't offering a car closer in performance to the Mazda 3.
 
As far as re-rating goes, GM and Ford have not seen much change to the engines that have been re-rated, as the Japanese makes are taking more of a hit in listed power numbers. I'd bet that the focus is still going to be in the 150 range, being the same engine that adequately powers the Fusion/6 (It's the 2.3L I-4, just massaged slightly).
 
I have read that the Forenza was painfully slow, belying its hp ratings (something like 11.X seconds to 60).

#11 of 226 Right, but... by alpha01

Feb 02, 2006 (12:49 pm)

My point is that you dont know for certain "......that Nissan, the first company with a 5-speed manual, 240 hp family sedan for $23k wasn't offering a car closer in performance to the Mazda 3."
 
How do you know that the new 2.0L 6M Sentra wont keep pace with the 2.0L 5M Mazda3i? The Sentra SE-R will be around again to compete with the Mazda3s....

#12 of 226 Re: Right, but... [alpha01] by thegraduate

Feb 02, 2006 (2:35 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Feb 02, 2006 12:49 pm)
25 horsepower would likely show a marked difference, but I don't know how (or if) the numbers from Mazda will have a big adjustment per SAE regulations. Since noone has driven a 2007 Sentra, we will have to wait and see!
 
BTW, any torque figures for the 07 Sentra floating around? If more than 145lb-ft, they will be in fine shape. If in the 120lb-ft and under, they may get lost in the crowd.

#14 of 226 Re: Right, but... [alpha01] by midnightcowboy

Feb 02, 2006 (2:45 pm)

Replying to: alpha01 (Feb 02, 2006 12:49 pm)
No thank you NO Spectra or Sentra for me. I take a 2.0L 6M Civic Si

#15 of 226 Pic too big by thegraduate

Feb 02, 2006 (4:55 pm)

We can't reply to your post because the pic is too wide. Perhaps you can resize it? Thank you for your efforts, though, spectraman. I've seen the front of this car at www.thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com. The site is updated daily with the latest new car gossip. It is often correct and timely, although it occasionally has some "wonky" info. You can check it out if you like! It's where I got the 135 hp figure.

#16 of 226 Re: A photo of the 2007 Sentra.... [spectraman] by pat

Feb 02, 2006 (5:25 pm)

As mentioned, the picture you posted was so wide that it badly distorted the page, so I had to remove it.
 
Feel free to post links to wide pictures, but please make sure that any picture you want to actually display in your post is no wider than about 500 pixels - thanks!

#17 of 226 Re: Pic too big [thegraduate] by ctalk

Feb 02, 2006 (5:30 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2006 4:55 pm)
The Sentra is already on their site.
 
Click here

#18 of 226 Re: Sentra vs. KIA Spectra [thegraduate] by tthota

Feb 07, 2006 (7:45 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 02, 2006 10:11 am)
The 06 Civic has 140HP6300RPM, sounds more powerful than the 07 Sentra with 135HP. However, the Civic's torque is 1284300, that is, you have to floor the pedal, downshift, and hear the engine hauling every time on a freeway entrance ramp to stay away from trucks, I know that from my Accord. My 06 Sentra has 1292400 torque, similar to the VW Golf (1222600) and much better than all JPN, KRN and US compact cars. I never had to floor the pedal, unless the car is already on overdrive and needs to downshift. It feels much better, compared to my 97 Accord SE. I hope the 07 Sentra keeps the max torque at low RPM feature. Of course, we are not talking about sporty performance.

#19 of 226 data [tthota] by tthota

Feb 07, 2006 (8:58 am)

Replying to: tthota (Feb 07, 2006 7:45 am)
------------------HP--------Torque----Weight
 
97 Civic_ EX 1.6: 1276600, 107$5500, 2518
97 Accord SE 2.2: 1305300, 1394200, 2900
06 Civic_ EX 1.8: 1406300, 1284300, 2740
06 Snetra 1.8sSE: 1266000, 1292400, 2580
 
The 06 Civic actually delivers less HP than the 97 Accord in practical dirving. After all, who drives at 6300RPM?
 
At 4200RPM, the Accord has higher torque than the Civic. Considering the weight difference, the two Hondas are about the same. I would geuss that they have much lower torque at below 3000RPM compared to the Sentra. The torque-RPM curve cannot stay almost constant between 2500 to 4300. It depends on the gear box design. Here you see the Nissan technology. They made a 1.8 liter engine behave like a 6 cylinder.
 
Today's Civic is indeed as good as a 97 Accord. 97 Civic was in a different class.

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