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Nissan Sentra, Honda Civic, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#9 of 226 Re: Sentra vs. KIA Spectra [thegraduate]
Feb 02, 2006 (9:30 am)
The actual number means nothing. Who cares? Look at the acceleration times and fuel efficiency to tell the whole story- a 5M Corolla will soundly trounce a 5M Forenza with the same HP rating.
Also, which of the quoted figures are SAE certified and which are not? Toyota and Honda are both definitely SAE certified, as will be the 07 Sentra. But the Focus, 3, and Cobalt.... I do not know, as Ford and GM said they would only re-rate according to the new, certified methodology upon model or engine changes.
#10 of 226 Re: Sentra vs. KIA Spectra [alpha01]
Feb 02, 2006 (11:18 am)
You are very right about the numbers not meaning much, and I'm sorry that I came across like that; it wasn't my intention. I'm not trying to "bash" the Sentra in any way, but I was a little surprised that Nissan, the first company with a 5-speed manual, 240 hp family sedan for $23k wasn't offering a car closer in performance to the Mazda 3.
As far as re-rating goes, GM and Ford have not seen much change to the engines that have been re-rated, as the Japanese makes are taking more of a hit in listed power numbers. I'd bet that the focus is still going to be in the 150 range, being the same engine that adequately powers the Fusion/6 (It's the 2.3L I-4, just massaged slightly).
I have read that the Forenza was painfully slow, belying its hp ratings (something like 11.X seconds to 60).
#11 of 226 Right, but...
Feb 02, 2006 (11:49 am)
My point is that you dont know for certain "......that Nissan, the first company with a 5-speed manual, 240 hp family sedan for $23k wasn't offering a car closer in performance to the Mazda 3."
How do you know that the new 2.0L 6M Sentra wont keep pace with the 2.0L 5M Mazda3i? The Sentra SE-R will be around again to compete with the Mazda3s....
#12 of 226 Re: Right, but... [alpha01]
Feb 02, 2006 (1:35 pm)
25 horsepower would likely show a marked difference, but I don't know how (or if) the numbers from Mazda will have a big adjustment per SAE regulations. Since noone has driven a 2007 Sentra, we will have to wait and see!
BTW, any torque figures for the 07 Sentra floating around? If more than 145lb-ft, they will be in fine shape. If in the 120lb-ft and under, they may get lost in the crowd.
#14 of 226 Re: Right, but... [alpha01]
Feb 02, 2006 (1:45 pm)
No thank you NO Spectra or Sentra for me. I take a 2.0L 6M Civic Si
Feb 02, 2006 (3:55 pm)
We can't reply to your post because the pic is too wide. Perhaps you can resize it? Thank you for your efforts, though, spectraman. I've seen the front of this car at www.thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com. The site is updated daily with the latest new car gossip. It is often correct and timely, although it occasionally has some "wonky" info. You can check it out if you like! It's where I got the 135 hp figure.
#16 of 226 Re: A photo of the 2007 Sentra.... [spectraman]
Feb 02, 2006 (4:25 pm)
As mentioned, the picture you posted was so wide that it badly distorted the page, so I had to remove it.
Feel free to post links to wide pictures, but please make sure that any picture you want to actually display in your post is no wider than about 500 pixels - thanks!
#17 of 226 Re: Pic too big [thegraduate]
Feb 02, 2006 (4:30 pm)
The Sentra is already on their site.
#18 of 226 Re: Sentra vs. KIA Spectra [thegraduate]
Feb 07, 2006 (6:45 am)
The 06 Civic has 140HP6300RPM, sounds more powerful than the 07 Sentra with 135HP. However, the Civic's torque is 1284300, that is, you have to floor the pedal, downshift, and hear the engine hauling every time on a freeway entrance ramp to stay away from trucks, I know that from my Accord. My 06 Sentra has 1292400 torque, similar to the VW Golf (1222600) and much better than all JPN, KRN and US compact cars. I never had to floor the pedal, unless the car is already on overdrive and needs to downshift. It feels much better, compared to my 97 Accord SE. I hope the 07 Sentra keeps the max torque at low RPM feature. Of course, we are not talking about sporty performance.