Last post on Nov 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM
You are in the Audi TT / TTS / TT-RS
What is this discussion about?
Audi TT, Coupe, Convertible
#21 of 49 Re: 2002 TT Timing Belt [bluecuervo]
Jan 07, 2008 (2:53 pm)
I periodically check the Audi TT blogs/forums regarding this timing belt issue. I have a 2000 Audi TT coupe that I purchased in 2003 with 32,000 miles on it. My timing belt broke in June 2006 on my drive from Los Angeles to Houston, TX at 83,000 miles. All of the car's maintenance since I purchased it used in 2003 was performed by the Audi Downtown Los Angeles dealership, even the 60K-mile maintenance where I instructed them to do EVERYTHING required plus anything they felt **should** be done. I even had a check-up at the dealership one month before I moved from Los Angeles to Houston (~82,000 miles).
In short, I was told the following by Audi USA and the Downtown L.A. dealership - after the fact:
1) All TT timing belts should be replaced every 3 years or 60K miles. The US Owners manual is misprinted and says 105K miles. The Australian owners manual says 100K km. It is a mis-print in the US Owners manual - they didn't convert from metric to US measurements, which would be about 66K miles.
2) The timing belt is composed of rubber - it degrades. Therefore, even if the car is low-mileage, after 3 years, the timing belt should be replaced because moisture, heat stress etc. cause wear and tear and it becomes brittle.
3) As stated above, the engine is an interference engine. It will be destroyed if the timing belt breaks - not a great design but I guess it keeps things fairly compact. So the risk by not changing one's timing belt is an engine that is unusable and costs approx $6500 to repair.
In my case, Audi U.S. paid 50% of the replacement cost for the new engine PARTS, and the repair work was done by the dealership in Houston (Momentum Audi). In my opinion, Audi should have paid all of the labor, and possibly 100% of the parts as well. I had the documentation that the L.A. dealership had done all of my maintenance since I purchased the car.
Now my 2000 TT has a new engine, new brakes, new tires and runs basically good as new - with the exception of a little electrical glitch with my turn signals (at 94,000 miles). I don't see a reason to replace it now...aside from the timing belt, it has been a great car.
After the timing belt was replaced, I asked the mechanic who did the work what the next probable failure would be based on his experience with TTs. He said the manual transmission is the best one Audi makes. So for those of you with tiptronics or automatics, just beware one Audi mechanic doesn't feel those are very reliable over the long term. I have a manual trans, so it provides me some comfort.
I heard rumors of a class action lawsuit back in '06 because of the timing belt. This is quite worthy, as this timing belt problem/owners manual misprint is so prevalent - and Audi only acknowledges it privately on a case-by-case basis.
Frankly, I wouldn't trust any of the timing belts since 2000-2002 without verification from Audi that a) they changed the composition of the rubber timing belt or b) changed the owners manual to correct the 105K mile replacement mis-representation.
I wish I had my point of contact with Audi USA still. I'd post his contact information all over the internet.
Jan 18, 2008 (10:11 am)
Just saw another TT being put on a tow truck today.....glad I bought the chain driven Mercedes -Crossfire.
#23 of 49 Re: 2002 TT Timing Belt [klboven]
Apr 23, 2008 (11:26 am)
I purchased my '02 Audi TT in 2005 and it had 12,000 miles on it and all of the maintenance was kept up religiously. I have continued to take it in for its regular service. I go to take it in for service at 65k miles and they want to change the timing belt. They also want to change some other things like the alternater "while they are in there". After reading this forum, I am convinced that I need to change the belt but what about the other things they want to do to the tune of ~$1500? Should I let them do everything or wait untill the other parts break?
Also, I was very happy to get a letter from Audi TT Instrument Settlement Administrator to fix the problems with my instrument panel display. It has been buggy for a while, I will have that fixed as well.
#24 of 49 so far my 2001 has 74K, so far so good
May 28, 2008 (3:21 pm)
im looking to change timing belt asap before mine goes south.
#25 of 49 Re: so far my 2001 has 74K, so far so good [savannah_tt]
May 28, 2008 (7:51 pm)
Prolly a good idea. So it costs $700 to fix the instrument panel. Im gonna get it fixed and tell them it broke last summer and turn it in by June 16th to see if they will reimburse me. My car was officially too old in Nov '07. Go figure...
Wish me luck!!
#26 of 49 extended warranty for timing belt/2001 audi
Nov 06, 2008 (1:47 pm)
I never recieved a letter about the extention of warranty, any ways I lost the timing belt last night. My mechanic told me about the class action law suit. 2001 model was extended to 120000 miles , but the way that I understand is it was revised from 105000 to 120000 and mailed out sept. 11th of 2008, and the dead line was sept.30th of 2008 to file for damages.
please acknowledge if you are in the same situation.
If you have any info that will help me ,please post it . I have 110,000 miles on it.
#27 of 49 Re: extended warranty for timing belt/2001 audi [mojdeh05]
Nov 07, 2008 (7:09 am)
I guess they did not send all of the letters out at the same time. Since you have to get it fixed anyway, go ahead and submit the bill to Audi and see if they will honor it.
Good luck, Sir. I sorry your car broke.
#28 of 49 2003 tt roadster
Apr 30, 2009 (12:07 pm)
Today I needed my key fobs re charged, I was told my timing belt has hairline cracks. They are replacing it now. I have learned that I should have received a notice about a year ago to have it checked, as the result of a class action suit.
I am certain that had I been alerted, I would have been covered now rather than bearing the expense.
Anyone have any suggestions how to pursue Audi for failing to notify me properly? I have all of 49,000 miles thus far.
#29 of 49 Re: 2003 tt roadster [joconnor4]
May 06, 2009 (3:34 pm)
Hi. Sorry for your troubles but Audi will only cover damages caused by a failed timing belt. The replacement of the belt is an owner responsibility. It is action like these from Audi that have soured my relationship with this car manufacturer. The worse part, and I hope I am not ruining your day, but this belt was an issue on this same motor on a previous model before the TT was released. And yet, they did nothing to redesign or upgrade the material of the belt. Way to stick it to the customer. My 2001 Roadster has this belt. I had it checked for free as part of the lawsuit and it was judged OK. I will check it every year and replace when necessary. It aint cheap to own a TT. Good luck.
#30 of 49 Re: 2003 tt roadster [joconnor4]
May 28, 2009 (7:59 am)
Having the timing belt changed next week 73K miles. (2001 TT Quattro) I received notification of the class action, can't remember when, but at that point in time the belt, which was checked for free, part of the "suit" was fine. When I went in for the 60K service they said it was starting to crack and recomended it be changed as soon as possible but by at least 75K miles....yes now I get to pay the $1400. for a new one. I guess I should have had them install a new one then...that is if they would have done it being that it was ok then....somehow I doubt they would have.