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#16 of 49 2002 TT Timing Belt
Nov 16, 2007 (6:38 pm)
OMG! I am soooo sick to my stomach. I live in NY and was at a training session in Enfield CT. I got in my car to go home, it started, I backed it out, it stalled and never started again. I had no idea it was the timing belt, we thought it was the battery so we must have cranked the engine dozens of times. Needless to say, my car had to be towed to an Audi dealer in MA and that is where it is now. The tech told me it most likely is the belt and that the head will probably need to be replaced but he had to spend more time with it to know the extent of the damage. If the head is blown it will most likely cost $5K to fix. So, I'll wait to hear what the outcome will be for my car 2 states away. I turned 90K on that drive and the maint schedule says to change at 105K. I wish I had read this post miles ago..............I love my car, but I decided long ago I will never buy another Audi because of other strange issues that needed to be repaired while the car was still young - I owned it for 3 weeks and the turbo hose fell off at 75 mph, at 51K - 1K miles after the warranty expired and 2 weeks after I brought it in for service a pump and a bunch of vacuum hoses needed to be fixed to the tune of $998. The cruise control no longer works, every now and then the car hesitates while shifting, my side reflector is always falling off, the gas gauge is whacky...it's crazy... Good luck all... say a prayer for me...
#17 of 49 Re: Timing Belt Issue - A huge problem! [tterrible]
Nov 21, 2007 (11:57 am)
if you went 132k on any Honda without changing the timing belt, you were living on borrowed time for 82,000 miles, it's well known that those belts go too, and that 50k is a prudent time to change, just like 60k is good on the 1.8t Audi/VW and 80k is a good time for the 2.8 Audi/VW V6. Even on Mercedes-Benz, with robust timing chains and no specified maint. interval, going over 100k without changing is Russian roulette.
#18 of 49 2002 TT Timing Belt
Dec 15, 2007 (9:12 pm)
So, it cost $6139.58 to rebuild my engine, and the car still intermittently hesitates! All I can say is that I am disgusted. This thing better run forever now.
My maintenance book clearly states that the belt should be replaced at 105K miles. I don't care what anyone says or what anyone knows, if that is not accurate Audi needs to inform its customers or take responsibility. Why the hell does the book say 105K if the thing breaks at 40, 60 or 90????
It's funny how the Audi rep said that some people decide not to fix the car, and he keeps them and fixes them himself and has a new car! I bet he was hoping I would leave my $42K car up there too.
It's a joke. Never again. I drove my 1989 Jeep Wrangler into the ground for almost 14 years. I never changed a timing chain or belt or hardly anything else for that matter. I abused that truck. I still have the thing sitting on my property. I could have rebuilt the entire truck for less than 6K and driven it another 14 years! To think I put it to pasture in 2002 to get this TT.
#20 of 49 Re: 2002 TT Timing Belt [bluecuervo]
Dec 31, 2007 (9:45 am)
And now there is something wrong with the exhaust! My car sounds like some punks supped up Honda. It's wheezing to... I can't. The thing is going in the garage until spring and I'll worry about it then.
#21 of 49 Re: 2002 TT Timing Belt [bluecuervo]
Jan 07, 2008 (2:53 pm)
I periodically check the Audi TT blogs/forums regarding this timing belt issue. I have a 2000 Audi TT coupe that I purchased in 2003 with 32,000 miles on it. My timing belt broke in June 2006 on my drive from Los Angeles to Houston, TX at 83,000 miles. All of the car's maintenance since I purchased it used in 2003 was performed by the Audi Downtown Los Angeles dealership, even the 60K-mile maintenance where I instructed them to do EVERYTHING required plus anything they felt **should** be done. I even had a check-up at the dealership one month before I moved from Los Angeles to Houston (~82,000 miles).
In short, I was told the following by Audi USA and the Downtown L.A. dealership - after the fact:
1) All TT timing belts should be replaced every 3 years or 60K miles. The US Owners manual is misprinted and says 105K miles. The Australian owners manual says 100K km. It is a mis-print in the US Owners manual - they didn't convert from metric to US measurements, which would be about 66K miles.
2) The timing belt is composed of rubber - it degrades. Therefore, even if the car is low-mileage, after 3 years, the timing belt should be replaced because moisture, heat stress etc. cause wear and tear and it becomes brittle.
3) As stated above, the engine is an interference engine. It will be destroyed if the timing belt breaks - not a great design but I guess it keeps things fairly compact. So the risk by not changing one's timing belt is an engine that is unusable and costs approx $6500 to repair.
In my case, Audi U.S. paid 50% of the replacement cost for the new engine PARTS, and the repair work was done by the dealership in Houston (Momentum Audi). In my opinion, Audi should have paid all of the labor, and possibly 100% of the parts as well. I had the documentation that the L.A. dealership had done all of my maintenance since I purchased the car.
Now my 2000 TT has a new engine, new brakes, new tires and runs basically good as new - with the exception of a little electrical glitch with my turn signals (at 94,000 miles). I don't see a reason to replace it now...aside from the timing belt, it has been a great car.
After the timing belt was replaced, I asked the mechanic who did the work what the next probable failure would be based on his experience with TTs. He said the manual transmission is the best one Audi makes. So for those of you with tiptronics or automatics, just beware one Audi mechanic doesn't feel those are very reliable over the long term. I have a manual trans, so it provides me some comfort.
I heard rumors of a class action lawsuit back in '06 because of the timing belt. This is quite worthy, as this timing belt problem/owners manual misprint is so prevalent - and Audi only acknowledges it privately on a case-by-case basis.
Frankly, I wouldn't trust any of the timing belts since 2000-2002 without verification from Audi that a) they changed the composition of the rubber timing belt or b) changed the owners manual to correct the 105K mile replacement mis-representation.
I wish I had my point of contact with Audi USA still. I'd post his contact information all over the internet.
Jan 18, 2008 (10:11 am)
Just saw another TT being put on a tow truck today.....glad I bought the chain driven Mercedes -Crossfire.
#23 of 49 Re: 2002 TT Timing Belt [klboven]
Apr 23, 2008 (11:26 am)
I purchased my '02 Audi TT in 2005 and it had 12,000 miles on it and all of the maintenance was kept up religiously. I have continued to take it in for its regular service. I go to take it in for service at 65k miles and they want to change the timing belt. They also want to change some other things like the alternater "while they are in there". After reading this forum, I am convinced that I need to change the belt but what about the other things they want to do to the tune of ~$1500? Should I let them do everything or wait untill the other parts break?
Also, I was very happy to get a letter from Audi TT Instrument Settlement Administrator to fix the problems with my instrument panel display. It has been buggy for a while, I will have that fixed as well.
#24 of 49 so far my 2001 has 74K, so far so good
May 28, 2008 (3:21 pm)
im looking to change timing belt asap before mine goes south.
#25 of 49 Re: so far my 2001 has 74K, so far so good [savannah_tt]
May 28, 2008 (7:51 pm)
Prolly a good idea. So it costs $700 to fix the instrument panel. Im gonna get it fixed and tell them it broke last summer and turn it in by June 16th to see if they will reimburse me. My car was officially too old in Nov '07. Go figure...
Wish me luck!!