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220 messages,  Last post on May 31, 2009 at 5:49 PM

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Re: A few more questions... [isellhondas] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 31, 2009 (8:03 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 31, 2009 7:06 am)

That's very true--the restorations I see are far better than what the factory built. When you see a totally original car in great shape you can see this for yourself.
 
If you took a 1965 car out of a time capsule and it was pristine with 0 miles on it, and you entered it in a modern auto show for judging, it would probably lose (if the judges didn't know it was an original).
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Re: A few more questions... [isellhondas] by tbird8
May 31, 2009 (11:05 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 31, 2009 7:03 am)

I found a beauty on ebay, a rag top no less! and at a reasonable price. kinda hate to bid on it now, also looked at a Olds Toronado from 1966. Has the same kind of 60's cool look to it. Do you know anything about these? I know its a front driver, but no one I ever knew ever had one to ask about, but must be a cousin of a caddy, right?
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Re: A few more questions... [tbird8] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 31, 2009 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: tbird8 (May 31, 2009 11:05 am)

I really like the '66 Toros. Yes, cousin to the Cadillac drivetrain. These are pretty awesome cars. Torque like a freight train. Gas guzzling monsters, great in snow, good power and handling for its vintage.
 
Downside? Totally impractical 60s coupe---huge car, no room for people.
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Re: A few more questions... [isellhondas] by fintail
May 31, 2009 (11:33 am)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 31, 2009 7:06 am)

I won't be able to make it to the Saturday event either, but they have a peoples choice show or something on Sunday.
 
I guess last year, my first time to visit this event, the guy thought I wanted to enter my car or something ...I think I was driving the fintail at the time, which would look pretty odd in a Ford show.
 
I'm more content with the condition of my old car as time goes on. It would be laughed out of a concours style event, but it runs good, looks good, and I don't have to worry about hurting it when I drive it. It likes to be driven. It's a car.
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Re: A few more questions... [tbird8] by isellhondas
May 31, 2009 (12:03 pm)
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Replying to: tbird8 (May 31, 2009 11:05 am)

I wasn't trying to scare you away. Just sharing my opinion. Unless a person is aware of the strengths and weaknesses of certain models they can get in way over their heads.
 
A 1966 Toronado is everything our HOST says about it. Much better workmanship and far fewer electrical problems.
 
A MUCH better choice would be a Buick Riviera from that era. Just wonderful cars that have a strong following and support group.
 
I miss mine.
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Re: A few more questions... [fintail] by isellhondas
May 31, 2009 (12:05 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (May 31, 2009 11:33 am)

Fintail,
 
Do you ever go th the XXX Drive In in Issaquah? Every Saturday evening,a lot of old cars converge there and almost every Sunday morning it's the same thing.
 
I'm almost always there looking around. On Saturdays a lot of the guys head to the Gaslamp in Issaquah afterwards to eat. A bunch of good guys!
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Re: A few more questions... [isellhondas] by fintail
May 31, 2009 (3:18 pm)
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 31, 2009 12:05 pm)

I've been to a small MB gathering there once, maybe 12-15 cars, that was it. There's a definite lack of automotive-themed gatherings in this part of the world, especially those that aren't built around cloned muscle cars and 70s style 55 Chevy hot rods etc. My cars are weird, and don't fit in among those.
 
Do you notice any obscure cars there?
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Re: A few more questions... [Mr_Shiftright] by andre1969
May 31, 2009 (5:49 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 30, 2009 5:12 pm)

I think those engines are kinda dogs, aren't they?
 
I've heard that they're not as powerful as you might think something like that would be. Looking online, I've seen 0-60 times from 8.2 to 8.8 seconds, and I found a quarter mile time of 16.5 seconds 83 mph.
 
It had 345 hp, which also doesn't sound like a lot to me, for something that's supposed to be a high performance engine. However, a lot of the "real" high-performance engines back then, like the 426 Hemi, and probably the 425 hp version of the Chevy 409 and 396, were a pain in the butt to live with on a daily basis unless you were living life a quarter mile at a time. Great for racing and showing off and getting tickets, but they'd go out of tune in a heartbeat, run hot, tended not to be happy with creature comforts like air conditioning, power steering, etc, and were geared so short they sounded like they were screaming even at idle.
 
I think the 7-litre was supposed to be a more "civilized" attempt at a full-sized performance car. A car that was still a pretty good performer, but something you could still be comfortable driving to work and running errands, day in and day out.
 
My friend's other old car is a 1959 Dodge Coronet 2-door hardtop, with the D500 package. 383 with dual quads and 345 hp. He blew the engine on that one, too.

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