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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 28, 2009 2:53 pm) |
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Replying to: tbird8 (May 28, 2009 11:53 pm) Unless you really know what you are doing, I would proceed with great caution. These cars can be a nightmare and the 67-69's ae no better.
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Replying to: tbird8 (May 28, 2009 11:53 pm) Yes you are correct, the 67-69 Birds will never be worth very much. RE: Hagerty --- Hagerty will insure ANYTHING that is remotely old, so I think the criteria for whether you "modify or don't modify" an old car has to rest on something else---probably market value is the most sober approach. Modify a $15,000 car? Sure, why not. After 45-50 years if it's only worth $15,000 nearly restored, you are not sitting on a gold mine there. Modify a $50,000 car? Probably not a smart idea, but people do it all the time, and if the mods are tasteful and reversible, the marketplace doesn't seem to mind too much. Just don't mess with vin and data tags, don't cut the car, and don't throw away what you took off. The idea of "purist" coupled with mass production American cars made in the 100s of thousands makes me chuckle a bit. There comes a point where a heated debate on the fender bolt markings and lengths on a Model A Ford becomes Theater of the Absurd. I can see big changes in people's attitudes about restoration. It seems we went from the "careless restoration" period of the 60s and 70s, to the fanatical authenticity and pampering of the 90s to the "get it in and drive it" attitude of 2009. A balanced middle ground if you will.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 29, 2009 6:54 am) Saturday, July 18, Bellevue College, Bellevue, WA is when judged Mustangs undergo a very meticulus and exacting discernment of authenticity. Your attending the judging process would be educational, informative, & inspiring. Hose clamps, bumper bolts, & fender bolts are just a few items that can cost points. Striving for perfection is to be admired.
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Replying to: euphonium (May 29, 2009 8:49 am) |
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Replying to: euphonium (May 29, 2009 8:49 am) When you have a LOT of a certain car still around, like a Mustang, and when you have a LOT of people restoring them, the competition is fierce and so the focus becomes more and more intense, and revolves around those little details. But all that can blow up in your face. I've seen judges take points off on a car I know for certain was never touched. The problem of course, is that the factory didn't always do things one particular way, so questions always remain. Striving for perfection can be admirable, and it can become a parody of itself. It depends. In my humble opinion, finding the correct air cleaner on a rare shaker hood or rare intake manifold is indeed striving for perfection and should be rewarded. Insisting on the correct markings on a fender bolt from a car slammed together on an assembly line in Detroit in numbers bordering 1/2 million,---this to me is a waste of good people's good time.
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 29, 2009 12:25 pm) They are not easy to attain these days.
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Replying to: euphonium (May 29, 2009 8:36 pm) |
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Replying to: isellhondas (May 29, 2009 5:27 am)
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Replying to: euphonium (May 29, 2009 8:49 am) Personally, I value preserved unrestored cars more than overblown restorations.
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