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Re: Nav [amauhry] by fmfl
Jun 25, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 25, 2008 9:28 am)

Dear Mr Amaury. You are missing the point all of these folks are making, namely that the Toyota Avalon navigation system is a rotten design, both in content and function. The number of GPS points is secondary to the miserable design of this navigation system ... compare to Honda, or one of the other brands that are a joy to use ... and that work properly. This one stinks.
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Re: Nav [fmfl] by amauhry
Jun 25, 2008 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: fmfl (Jun 25, 2008 10:10 am)

I am not missing the point. I'm fully aware that the system (hardware and software) is far from being user-friendly. The fact is, I kinda twisted Toyota's arm regarding one issue I had with the GPS. But don't forget that this is a two-way communication between the hardware/software and the user, which is us.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: Nav [amauhry] by generose
Jun 25, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 25, 2008 1:33 pm)

You are missing the point..Don't apologize for por design or coverage. This is a $2000 option, not a $200 discount store item. There is no excuse that anybody can offer that justifies the garbage system that has been marketed for years without major improvement or substitution.
No reply is necessary, you just don't get it.
 
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GPS by amauhry
Jun 26, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Toyota is to be blamed for not providing an in-depth, comprehensive manual on the capabilities of the navigation system.
 
Case in point: One major complaint about the system is its “apparent” inability to calculate an efficient route. The fact is you don’t need to accept the route (or any of the other “3rd Route options) the system gives you. You can force the system to take the route that you want (the system has tool for this). You can even see the entire route, street by street turn, at your own pace before putting the car in motion. This gives you time to examine the route for consistency (efficiency). If you don’t like what you see, drop it; take another one.
 
You can save multiple routes along with all your preferences well in advance of your trip(s). This way when the trip day comes, you just jump in the car; your route(s) will be there waiting for you. With this I’m also implying that the system has the capability of saving multiple destinations from one single location in one step. For example, if you want to go from point A to point B, then C followed by D and ending in E, you can put all those destinations (along with routes) while you’re at point A. And, of course, you can re-order the priorities of these destinations at will. You can insert any stop, overnight stay, etc. into your route without changing the original route. And in case you make an “unprogrammed” deviation from your route, the system will still get you to your destination using your remaining road preferences. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
But, of course, most of this stuff is not in the manual. I found this out by playing with the system and making my own notes. This is way I said this system is a two-way communication; the user’s reaction counts a lot here.
 
I understand people fustration about this but that does not necessarily mean I need to be fustrated as well. My view is that, as is the GPS on the Avalon should not be intended for mass market because it seems to be experimental even though it is not.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: GPS [amauhry] by generose
Jun 26, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 26, 2008 7:09 am)

You obviously have a lot of patience with having been presented with an inaccurate, difficult to operate, undocumented and in some respects faulty system. To have paid the price of this system and be accepting of the incomplete product provided takes a lot more patience than I, and many others have.
 
I have a tremendous level of patience if there is a reason to be so. However, if this GPS is experimental, I don't appreciate being used as a Guinea Pig.
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GPS by amauhry
Jun 26, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Another feature offered by this system is to find your way using the lat & long coordinates. With this info, even if there is no road data available the system will guide you to the road closet to your coordinate point (latitude and longitude). The system always provides you with the lat & long along any path you take on the map.
 
When in route overview, the user have the option to either see the entire route by itself on the map, or a listing of the street turns involved, or both. This way the opportunity is given to explore your route before "lift-off".
 
My findings are not a matter of patience. Being stuck with a $2K gadget that at first seemed to be a waste was not an option for me.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: GPS [amauhry] by generose
Jun 26, 2008 (9:32 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 26, 2008 9:19 am)

I disagree respectfully but Latitude and Longitude are not posted on roads, I have never seen this feature on my system on the 2007 Avalon Limited. If you are on remote, unfamiliar turf, the system does not always do its job and can, as I have experienced, take you astray or onto a route that adds many miles to your trip.
In summary, the system is an inferior, difficult, overpriced, inconvenient and outrageous offering by Toyota.
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Nav by amauhry
Jun 26, 2008 (1:32 pm)
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Every point on earth has a latitude and longitude “address”, including your own house. This is how vessels can find spots on the ocean and missiles can find their targets on earth (sort of).
 
While your car is parked in your garage, activate your Nav system:
Hit “Destination” button.
Choose the “By Emergency” option.
  
Bingo! The screen provided by this option (latter) includes the Latitude and longitude of your garage. Now, you can find that spot once again in your system either by the common method of street by name or by the not so common method (among us civilians) of Cartesian way of Lat and Long.
 
How can your find your spot in the middle of Interstate 95 or Route 66 or Coyote land? Not by street name my friend. Lat & Long is way more reliable.
 
Amaury
’08 Limited
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Re: Nav [amauhry] by fmfl
Jun 26, 2008 (2:15 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 26, 2008 1:32 pm)

Hi honey, I'll be right over ... what's your latitude and longitude!
 
This junk sucks!
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Re: GPS [amauhry] by jordanfl
Jun 28, 2008 (7:00 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 26, 2008 7:09 am)

My wife and I took the Limited to Tampa this weekend. During the trip, I had ample opportunity to test the GPS. I took my Garmin Nuvi 350 along as a backup and as a sanity check.
 
Here are the results:
Avalon contains navigation information for secondary roads/highways only in metropolitan areas. It worked fine in and around Tampa, but could not navigate anywhere near my house in central Florida. The system had most of the road locations and names right...it just would not use the information for navigation. (Nuvi had no problems anywhere along the route.)
 
Avalon contains limited data for points of interest. It could not find a well-known seafood restaurant (Landry's Seafood) within 2 miles of my hotel. It could not find movie theaters anywhere in Tampa. (Nuvi found both and navigated us to them nicely.)
 
I compared all of this to Microsoft Streets & Trips 2006 that I use at home. It could navigate all of the roads in the routes and found all points of interest. I dare say the version that was available eight years ago could do so.
 
Avalon's navigation system is at least 10 year old technology.
 
Jordanfl
'08 Limited with difficient navigation

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