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Re: '08 Nav System [jordanfl] by bobu1
Jun 24, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: jordanfl (Jun 24, 2008 8:29 am)

Love my Nuvi 350 too! Agree Avalon nav system is very poor, voice recognition almost useless. Wife took her 2007 LTD in for service and complained about nav. Dealer changed a setting and "tweaked" something else in system and now nav works acceptably. I won't buy another Toyota nav system without a thorough test though.
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Nav by amauhry
Jun 24, 2008 (8:58 am)
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jordanfl,
 
The DVD player for the Nav is in the trunk by the tail lights, driver's side. You need to set aside portion of the trim cover in order to access the unit. Nothing complex here. Once you see the unit (player), find the eject button. This is like inserting/removing CDs/DVDs in any CD/DVD player.
 
However, while doing this, juice has to be flowing in your avy; therefore, has the IG switch in the "acc" position. Once the new DVD is inserted, the Nav system will update itself within a few seconds.
 
I still consider the NAV in the avy more superior and accurate than many other stuff I had seen (I have owned two GPS, laptop based, which are far more powerful than any 4" LCD unit). The true is that the voice recog really SUCKS big time. So I rely on the manual approach for all my inputs.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: Nav [amauhry] by jordanfl
Jun 24, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 24, 2008 8:58 am)

amauhry,
 
My issue with the nav is the ability...or lack of ability...to navigate within secondary roads. Apparently, the 6.1 ver of software in my unit does not have enough data to provide navigation in non-metro areas. I live in a community that has been here 20 years, but the nav only has data for the main highways that come through town.
 
Does the 7.1 ver improve the data for secondary roads in non-metro areas?
 
If not, I will have to haul my Nuvi 350 when driving in out-of-the-way places.
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Re: Nav [jordanfl] by amauhry
Jun 25, 2008 (9:28 am)
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Replying to: jordanfl (Jun 24, 2008 2:34 pm)

Still I haven’t encountered the situation where my GPS has gone solo (no road data available). But what you just mentioned is a fact of life; It is impractical (for the financial cost of double-checking or finding every geographical spot on the US) and physically impossible to jam-pack every street, road, alley, etc. on any CD or DVD (only so much 0’s and 1’s can be stored in these media).
 
No matter which software one uses, these software are prone to go solo due to lack of map data. Heck even the laptop-based Navigation I own, powered by the laptop’s Pentium 3.2 GHz processor and having the laptop hard drive as storage, does not include every geographical point in the US.
 
It is just pure luck that the other Nav system you use, which is cheaper than the Avalon’s, does have all the routes you need for navigation. I’m lucky, too, that for my navigation needs my Avy’s GPS has everything (and I have been to many rural areas in New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts).
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: Nav [amauhry] by fmfl
Jun 25, 2008 (10:10 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 25, 2008 9:28 am)

Dear Mr Amaury. You are missing the point all of these folks are making, namely that the Toyota Avalon navigation system is a rotten design, both in content and function. The number of GPS points is secondary to the miserable design of this navigation system ... compare to Honda, or one of the other brands that are a joy to use ... and that work properly. This one stinks.
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Re: Nav [fmfl] by amauhry
Jun 25, 2008 (1:33 pm)
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Replying to: fmfl (Jun 25, 2008 10:10 am)

I am not missing the point. I'm fully aware that the system (hardware and software) is far from being user-friendly. The fact is, I kinda twisted Toyota's arm regarding one issue I had with the GPS. But don't forget that this is a two-way communication between the hardware/software and the user, which is us.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: Nav [amauhry] by generose
Jun 25, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 25, 2008 1:33 pm)

You are missing the point..Don't apologize for por design or coverage. This is a $2000 option, not a $200 discount store item. There is no excuse that anybody can offer that justifies the garbage system that has been marketed for years without major improvement or substitution.
No reply is necessary, you just don't get it.
 
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GPS by amauhry
Jun 26, 2008 (7:09 am)
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Toyota is to be blamed for not providing an in-depth, comprehensive manual on the capabilities of the navigation system.
 
Case in point: One major complaint about the system is its “apparent” inability to calculate an efficient route. The fact is you don’t need to accept the route (or any of the other “3rd Route options) the system gives you. You can force the system to take the route that you want (the system has tool for this). You can even see the entire route, street by street turn, at your own pace before putting the car in motion. This gives you time to examine the route for consistency (efficiency). If you don’t like what you see, drop it; take another one.
 
You can save multiple routes along with all your preferences well in advance of your trip(s). This way when the trip day comes, you just jump in the car; your route(s) will be there waiting for you. With this I’m also implying that the system has the capability of saving multiple destinations from one single location in one step. For example, if you want to go from point A to point B, then C followed by D and ending in E, you can put all those destinations (along with routes) while you’re at point A. And, of course, you can re-order the priorities of these destinations at will. You can insert any stop, overnight stay, etc. into your route without changing the original route. And in case you make an “unprogrammed” deviation from your route, the system will still get you to your destination using your remaining road preferences. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
 
But, of course, most of this stuff is not in the manual. I found this out by playing with the system and making my own notes. This is way I said this system is a two-way communication; the user’s reaction counts a lot here.
 
I understand people fustration about this but that does not necessarily mean I need to be fustrated as well. My view is that, as is the GPS on the Avalon should not be intended for mass market because it seems to be experimental even though it is not.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited
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Re: GPS [amauhry] by generose
Jun 26, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: amauhry (Jun 26, 2008 7:09 am)

You obviously have a lot of patience with having been presented with an inaccurate, difficult to operate, undocumented and in some respects faulty system. To have paid the price of this system and be accepting of the incomplete product provided takes a lot more patience than I, and many others have.
 
I have a tremendous level of patience if there is a reason to be so. However, if this GPS is experimental, I don't appreciate being used as a Guinea Pig.
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GPS by amauhry
Jun 26, 2008 (9:19 am)
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Another feature offered by this system is to find your way using the lat & long coordinates. With this info, even if there is no road data available the system will guide you to the road closet to your coordinate point (latitude and longitude). The system always provides you with the lat & long along any path you take on the map.
 
When in route overview, the user have the option to either see the entire route by itself on the map, or a listing of the street turns involved, or both. This way the opportunity is given to explore your route before "lift-off".
 
My findings are not a matter of patience. Being stuck with a $2K gadget that at first seemed to be a waste was not an option for me.
 
Amaury
'08 Limited

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