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Re: Headlights turn on randomly??? [user777] by badgerfan
Jun 15, 2006 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Jun 15, 2006 12:52 am)

Huh? How could a failing alternator cause headlights to go on when the car is parked and not running? Did you really read the post?
 
More likely there is a fault in the electrical wiring, healight switch, ignition switch, etc that would cause this to happen.
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Re: Headlights turn on randomly??? [badgerfan] by user777
Jun 15, 2006 (8:17 am)
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Replying to: badgerfan (Jun 15, 2006 5:45 am)

yes i read the post...and my post.
 
let's see, when the vehicle is running, power is being supplied by the alternator which maintains a charge on the battery. bad alternator, and eventually bad battery.
 
now then, many cars are controlled by a miriade of computer systems. a poor voltage regulation section on the alternator may result in blowing headlights. in addition voltage spikes might find there way over to the various computer systems, and as I'm sure you know, that may result in a computer system getting into a random state or actual damage to components. but yeah, you'd expect this to be an issue with the vehicle running. however, if the damage to the computer was done when the vehicle was running, it might exhibit itself later with the vehicle parked.
 
but back to the battery, if it discharges below some threshold because of a bad alternator, yeah, i can imagine a program running errant. ever have a computerized kid toy go crazy when the batteries run down past some point?
 
a marginal alternator isn't out of the question, so i thought the randomness and a failed (new) battery could be caused by a flakey alternator.
 
ok, maybe it's something else. maybe a bad main computer, or maybe some parasitic load drawing the battery down when the vehicle is not running.
 
i wonder how many more ideas will be generated by the readers of this forum to the problem...
 
ok, i'll add another, a key FOB in someone's pants pocket or purse or in the hands of a little one.
 
never did i claim to know the root cause, but the one i postulated is still a reasonable one given the limited information provided.
 
yes/no?
 
yes, your ideas are also possible. nowhere did the poster ask for an exhaustive listing of possibilities.
 
am i out of the dog house?
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Re: Headlights turn on randomly??? [user777] by badgerfan
Jun 15, 2006 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: user777 (Jun 15, 2006 8:17 am)

You are out of the doghouse, but you might be overanalyzing this. Then again, with the increasing complexity designers have managed to complicate simple functions, you could be right
 
Makes me glad headlights on our vehicles are only controlled by a simple headlight switch and no day/night automatic sensors, etc. The only interlock is it warns me if I open the driver door with them still on.
 
Sometimes life is simpler when the driver alone controls the operation of the headlights!
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Re: Headlights turn on randomly??? [wseattle78] by wwest
Jun 15, 2006 (9:16 am)
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Replying to: wseattle78 (Jun 14, 2006 8:15 pm)

Not random.....?
 
On earlier Lexus versions if you stopped with the headlights on they would turn off automatically if you first turned off the ignition and then opened the drivers door. Open the drivers door first and the headlights would remain on forever....
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Re: Headlights turn on randomly??? [wwest] by user777
Jun 15, 2006 (1:44 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Jun 15, 2006 9:16 am)

now that's funny.
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My Toyota avalon 2000 problem,please help. by jenshi
Aug 14, 2006 (8:05 pm)
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I bought my current car by this Jan. This is my first car. When it did the inspection, the car changed the new battary. but 2 months later, the car can't be started, the car was towed to repair center(it is also a gas station), i was told the the battary was not good and the charging system(i don't know car, so i don't know how to call it) who pass the electricity to battary didn't work for the battary, need to replace both of them, the cost was around $400. Because i don't the car, i don't know whether the car repair center ripped me off. this was my first car repair experience.
This time my car has problem again, three lights (check, vsc and vsc off)on when i am driving the car. this time i did the search from internet before i went to the car repair center. First i went to the toyota dealer service, i just want to know what's wrong with my car, but i was told the diagnosis will charge me $220, it is too expensive. i went back home then went to another car repair center, they charged me $35 for the trouble code. the trouble code is p0171. The DTC detecting condition said: when air-fuel ratio feedback is stable after engine warming up. fuel trim is considerably in error on rich side. The guy told me: the trouble areas are 1)open or short in A/F sensor(bank1,2 sensor1) circuit 2/A/F sensor(bank1,2 sensor 1). so i need to buy two sensors, the sensor price from toyota dealer is $207 each, he said if i repair the car all from him, the total charge is $405(the parts also from toyota dealer,he said he will give me $187 each). sign, i am really bad luck, the car always give me trouble, like a momey eater.
Now my questions are:
1)does three lights on, and trouble code is p0171, show the problem what the guy told me, and i need to replace two sensors? or maybe any other problems? like air indcution system problem, if so ,is it a serious problem?
2)if i don't repair it , will they hurt my car, and lead the big trouble later on?
3)should i go to toyota dealer's service or the place i mentioned above. i know from dealer the repair cost is more expensive than other personal repair center. but i think the toyota dealer is more trustable, they won't do bad thing on my car?is my thought true?
Thanks everybody here can help me, i am a female and i don't know about the car,i am the only driver in my family. so i really need your help me to tell me what i should do. thanks again.
 
jennifer
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Re: My Toyota avalon 2000 problem,please help. [jenshi] by bobwiley
Aug 15, 2006 (9:31 am)
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Replying to: jenshi (Aug 14, 2006 8:05 pm)

jennifer: First, how many miles on the car? How much did you pay for it? You'll have to fix the problem sooner or later (sooner better), get the problem fixed!!! 2000 Avalon's did have electrical problems according to Consumer Reports. Talked to my mechanic and he said---price is VERY fair. If no other codes--should be OK to go. You have to decide when "enough is enough" regarding repairs. Overall, 2000 Avalon's were VERY good cars. Good luck and let us know the outcome.
Bob
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Re: My Toyota avalon 2000 problem,please help. [bobwiley] by jenshi
Aug 16, 2006 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 15, 2006 9:31 am)

thanks Bob, when i bought this car, the mileages already 97990miles, it costs me around 10K(including tax,i am in ny). my neighbour tole me it is a deal. i am just doubt whether it is a deal or not, since it gives me so many troubles. the car still hasn't been repaired, since i am searching the possible problem, sign, it is very hard for a female who doesn't know anything about the car. i searched the same problem as mine car, said possible need to clean the MAF sensor. i am trying to do myself to take it off and clean it, but i don't know where it is located, the guy who printed the trouble code for me didn't like to show me, i know he wants me to repair the car from him. But i am just worried about he knows me i don't know anything about the car, he may rip me off. i really hate my first car repair experience, because my neighbour told me the guy must rip me off. i feel so helpless, because no one really can help me except i go to the dealer who i may trust.
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Re: My Toyota avalon 2000 problem,please help. [jenshi] by bobwiley
Aug 16, 2006 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: jenshi (Aug 16, 2006 9:02 am)

jenshi: Do you have a Firestone/Goodyear/Pep Boys near you? they are all very reputible repair places and their prices are well within the acceptible range as they use standard "Shop Hourly Rate Charge" in computing repair costs. As I said before, our mechanic said the price you were quoted is VERY fair. The yearly mileage on your 2000 figures to be about 14.000 (98,000 miles divided by 7 years old), and 98,000 miles on an Avy is nothing. Our friends just sold their 95 Avalon with 170,000 miles on it for $3,900 and it runs like new. I know how frustrating it can be when ya feel like nobody cares or their just trying to rip ya off. I'd recommend fixing the car---afterall, it is mechanical and electrical and things do go wrong. Good luck!
Bob
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Re: My Toyota avalon 2000 problem,please help. [bobwiley] by jenshi
Aug 16, 2006 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 16, 2006 9:58 am)

thanks again, Bob, ur input is very important to me. i do find the Firestone/pep boys around my home. my question is: do they charge the same hour rate as Toyota dealer? Because toyota dealer is near my home,just 5 blocks, if the price is same, i would go to dealer service, but if they are cheaper than dealer, i still like to drive there to get the car repaired. i want to find a place that it has good reputation and the price also reasonable and afforable. the guy told me to repair my car, the parts must be bought from toyota dealer, otherwise will still give trouble.

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