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Sedans Volkswagen Jetta Volkswagen Jetta Starting and Stalling Issues
122 messages, Last post on Aug 01, 2009 at 4:27 PM
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Replying to: karrs682 (May 08, 2009 1:43 pm) Oh I should have known better then to speak so soon My son came for a visit guess what is staying... yes the car. After all that work now there is oil in the antifreeze. does anybody have any clue what it could be now.
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Replying to: karrs682 (May 17, 2009 3:57 pm)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 17, 2009 4:54 pm)
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I'll post what I have posted in another forum at vwvortex.com. Hopefully you guys can help point me in a direction of what to do next as i'm lost as to what my next step(s) should be. I have an '06 Jetta 2.5, 5sp man, pack 1, with 45,000 miles on it. I have been having intermittant issues getting it started after the vehicle has been previously recently driven. (brought to full operating temperature). For example; car sits overnight, 7-9, hours in a garage. Get in to go to work, car starts just fine/normal. Car then sits for 3-4 hrs before my next attempt at starting the vehicle where the vehicle cranks but refuses to "fire-up" until it finally gives in and starts after several re-attempts at getting it started. Vehicle then starts but idles quite roughly. First trip: I mention to dealer progressive difficulty getting vehicle started, dealer advises they do not experience the same issues. Second trip: Dealer agrees to replace the battery, so now instead of fast "click, click, click" the car cranks (actual engine turn over) with much more intent but still doesn't start in the above situation. Third trip: Dealer advises they finally experienced and/or witnesssed the problem themselves. Dealer replaces ignition control module. I get it home, decide to go to petsmart but cannot leave as my vehicle refuses to start. Fourth trip: Dealer replaces the Altenator on the vehicle to no prevail. Fifth trip: Dealer has had vehicle all week and has put 300 miles on it and cannot replicate issue once again. Dealer takes sample of the fuel to see if possible water in the gas issue? Nothing unusual found with the fuel but dealer notes they find possible mis-fire codes and rough idle issues in the computer. Dealer acknowledges they performed my $600 40k service. Dealer also sees I have never missed any service intervals. Dealer puts in a fuel additive and checks injectors to see if dirty but they are not. And to add insult to injury Dealer employs a group of greased Monkeys to finger paint on the headliner and interior of my vehicle. Dealer makes no comment but new headliner is currently on order and I still have a vehicle that starts but only when it wants too. What does one do next? 
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And now trip number Six to the dealer; Wouldn't start again yesterday or today. Cept today is different, I now have it all on Video and have contacted VWoA,..so we'll wait and see what they say.
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Replying to: dilbertsdub (May 25, 2009 4:20 pm) Dealer however did call to say that they could not replicate the issue AND also stated they have not ever been able to replicate the issue?!? I inquired about the mis-fire codes and rough idle issue AND the replication of the issue that they previously advised me they too had experienced? Dealer's response was, "well per Carfacts we see the vehicle has been involved in an Accident and the vehicle's paint is thicker on the right passenger side door and we're not sure if that may have something to do with it." I am completely unaware of any prior damage other than what my purchasing dealership advised me when they repainted my front bumper and were shocked to find no primer. They mentioned possible damage at port? They re-painted front bumper and now its flaking off again at same location as before. I now have copies of all service records at all locations. VAG doesn't seem to be open during any hours that most people would be able to call in and not surprisingly they over promised what they can deliver as didn't get a call back from the Regional Svc Mgmr. I also still have the video of the car acting up and witnesses to this vehicles intermittant issues, so I know this isn't in my head. I don't know what to do with this car. Thanks for your input. |
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Replying to: karrs682 (May 23, 2009 1:11 pm) sorry to express my frustration, but i am really getting pissed off the sales rep that sold this car to a 19 year old as a first car should be shot. but than again money talks, i must say i am very glad that someone took the time to set something like this up. Just for people like us. But isn't it sad that no a-days you can't even trust dealerships- to be able to give you answers if the computer doesn't give a code or what ever no one knows what to do. My son even talked to a VW dealership and was told they have no clue, that they need the codes.
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Replying to: karrs682 (Jun 02, 2009 3:10 pm) You are right that some have no clue how to actually troubleshoot, isolate, and resolve a problem when no codes are thrown. Also, it sounds as if that 19-year old could have got some better "guidance" when purchasing a 1st car that is turbocharged. Turbocharged VW engines *NEED* to have synthetic oil and hi-octane fuel. If that engine ever had "dyno" oil run in it, it may have suffered from sludging. (oil-passagways getting plugged up). Also, I assume that "machine shop" checked the planarity of the head while replacing gasket? At least she is hopefully learning a valuable lesson about buying a car. |
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Replying to: dilbertsdub (May 24, 2009 9:18 am) Let me know if you get any where with this. good luck
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Replying to: mat311 (Jun 08, 2009 11:25 am) I took off the entire air intake and fuel injector system off the car and gave it a good cleaning. Put everything back together, and it started-up again. I'm not sure why. But it's working again. Jon |
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