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Re: IS 250 AWD [greeneyespsu] by newyorklexus
Aug 17, 2009 (7:01 pm)
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Replying to: greeneyespsu (Aug 15, 2009 1:15 am)

Green I know what I am doing pretty well when i buy a car which i just did. But I am confused with the MSD. Can you go a little into detail? How will multiple security deposits lower your payment and how much is that costing you upfront. What is the maximum 8 mean? Explain very interested in your knowledge.
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MSDs by greeneyespsu
Aug 17, 2009 (7:39 pm)
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MSD are multiple security deposits. Each security deposit lowers your MF by a certain amount (I don't know the exact amount off the top of my head.. something like .00007 with each MSD, which seems to make sense based off my numbers). For example, my starting MF was .0007 (1.68% -- multiple the MF by 2400 to get the percent) and with 9 MSDs I brought it down to .00006 (.144%). Your MSD is calculated by your monthly payment rounded to the nearest $25. My payment was $411 and some change before the tax increase so my MSD was $425 each. I paid $3825 for security deposit ($425 x 9) which will be refunded to me at the end of my lease. This decreased my interest by 1.536% per year which is quite a lot of money over the life of the lease (I don't feel like doing the exact math, but I did post it previously either in this forum or the price paid forum if you want to see exact numbers) and gives a very high return on investment -- close to 15%, which is way higher than you could get from investing that money in any CD or bank. Everything that I had read on this forum prior to my getting my car suggested that the most MSDs you can put down is 8, but my dealer allowed me to put down 9 so YMMV on that. He said I could pay it down to 0 MF (which probably would have been 1 more MSD -- or maybe I couldn't since that would have been a little below 0 so maybe it wouldn't have gone through, who knows -- and I should have done that, but wasn't even thinking at the time). Effectively, my interest from paying down the MF is only like $120 or something over the life of my lease.
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Re: IS 250 AWD [newyorklexus] by ambere10
Aug 18, 2009 (8:54 am)
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Replying to: newyorklexus (Aug 17, 2009 7:01 pm)

Newyorklexus,
 
What did you end up getting? I may be getting a car today. My moms Saab was at the end of lease and they were being A-holes so she turned hers in lastnt. She is currently driving my Acura and has decided to pay my last 2 payments till my end of lease on that and that will give her time to shop around...worksout great for me bc now I don;t have to throw away $ by handing in my car early.
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Re: IS 250 AWD [ambere10] by leshxa
Aug 18, 2009 (11:12 am)
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Replying to: ambere10 (Aug 18, 2009 8:54 am)

I just got an updated offer from the dealer:
 
$34016 selling price for $37129 MSRP
No Cap Reduction
Tax/Tags/Title/1st Mo/Acquisition Fee = 3400 at inception
MF is 0.0004
12k lease
 
The offered amount 415
 
They are saying the selling price is their invoice. I'm not convinced....
 
This is for 2009 IS 250 AWD without HID
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Re: IS 250 AWD [leshxa] by ambere10
Aug 18, 2009 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: leshxa (Aug 18, 2009 11:12 am)

Thanks for the reply...just in doing my research, I may be wrong but I think you did put about a $500 downpayment. I am looking at a IS250 AWD for 15k miles and I only said I would only put down the fees and in NJ it is around $1730..this is the average I have gotten between 3 dealerships. This of course does not incl the tax like yours. Just ran your #'s and it shows a $500 Cap Reduction on the calculator but I could be wrong...the 0.0004 is great! Only 1 dealership is offering me that MF, the other 2 are at 0.0005! ugh!
 
Enjoy your new car!!! I can't wait for this to be done!
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Re: June IS250 MF and Residuals [Car_man] by microsc0pe
Aug 26, 2009 (11:54 am)
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Replying to: Car_man (Aug 06, 2009 1:56 am)

Car Man,
What's the August money factor and residuals for a 2009 RWD is250 for 36 months/12k miles?
Thanks in advance!
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IS 250 AWD by alexthegreat
Aug 26, 2009 (4:45 pm)
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Got 2 offers today.
 
IS 250 AWD Base car, rear spoiler, preferred accessories
$33,800 selling price for (MSRP)36,500
No cap reduction
Tax/Tags/Acq fee/1st month payment=3,000
MF=.00075
Residual=53%
10,000 lease 36 months
 
monthly payment=$417
 
OR
 
IS 250 AWD NAV/LUXURY/HID/PREMIUM
$38,500 selling price for (MSRP) 40,999
cap reduction=$1000
Tax/Tags/Acq fee/1st month payment=3000
MF=.00075
Residual 53%
10,000 lease 36 months
 
monthly payment $458
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Re: Cap Reduction??? [leshxa] by Car_man HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (2:46 am)
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Replying to: leshxa (Aug 14, 2009 10:32 pm)

Hi leshxa. I dislike down payments on leases for two main reasons. One, while they do reduce your vehicle's monthly payment, they do nothing to reduce its end-of-term purchase option price.
 
And two, consumers who make down payments on leases risk losing part or all of them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered.
 
Even though it means that your monthly payment will be a little higher, it is much safer to go with a zero down lease.
 
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket and really want to lower your car's monthly payment use that cash to make multiple security deposits instead of a capitalized cost reduction. At least with MSDs you get the money back at lease-end.
 
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Re: June IS250 MF and Residuals [microsc0pe] by Car_man HOST
Aug 27, 2009 (2:49 am)
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Replying to: microsc0pe (Aug 26, 2009 11:54 am)

Here you go, microsc0pe. According to the latest information that I have seen, Lexus Financial Services' current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2009 IS 250 RWD with 12,000 miles per year are .00040 and 52%, respectively.
 
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IS250 RWD by msteve9487
Aug 29, 2009 (2:21 am)
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I need your opinion on a quote I received for a base model 2009 IS250 RWD lease. The total amount of the lease for 36 mths / 12k miles is $15,529 (includes all fees, etc). This equates to $431.36 / mth. I want to to purchase this on Aug 31st and just wondering if its a good deal. Let me know your thoughts on this one.

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