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Toyota Avalon Suspension Questions

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#98 of 150
Re: Looking for more composed ride [smith1] by abfisch
May 10, 2007 (6:33 am)
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Replying to: smith1 (May 08, 2007 12:57 pm)

Yes.yes. yes. TokicoHP or KYB GR2's. Do NOT change the tire sizing. Have them change the mounts and bump stops too, either OEM or KYB.
 
Have had TokicoHP for 70K on an 02 Avalon, with Energy Suspension PU bushings, regular springs and Toyota OEM wheels. My other vehicle is a BMW 3 series with the sports suspension. While two different cars, you would be very very surprised. I took the BMW yesterday, but I took the Avalon today, more comfortable for a large person.
 
Not inexpensive to change, but worth it if you intend on keeping the vehicle.
 
Bigger sway bars I do not find necessary on this vehicle. The PU sway bar bushing, act the same as putting on a bigger sway bar, and the vehicle rides markedly well controlled while still balancing out for comfort.
 
abfisch
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Thanks by smith1
May 14, 2007 (1:19 pm)
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Many thanks for the information, much appreciated.
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Support position clarification, please absfich, jwadle1 by hawiianavowner
May 31, 2007 (10:07 pm)
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Aloha, all...been lurking but haven't posted in a looong time...I've reached the 120K mark on my 2000 avy, am considering changing sway bar bushings to PU. Am NOT clear on the support positions- where do the jackstands go? In the manual (page IN-8) it says the support positions are on the edge, same as 4 of the jack positions. I read here that doing so would load the struts and springs... Considered ramps, but manual says the wheels must be removed to remove sway bar.
So somewhere along both axles,Isee, but do I put them as near as possible to the wheels? Can they be put in the wrong (non-supportive) place?
Jwadle1, did you ever take the pics you promised?
 
To clarify, I am no mechanic, but I do change my own oil and struggled through a recent sparkplug change.
 
Mahalo,
hawaiianavowner
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Re: Support position clarification, please absfich, jwadle1 [hawiianavowner] by abfisch
Jun 12, 2007 (8:19 am)
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Replying to: hawiianavowner (May 31, 2007 10:07 pm)

hawiaanowner:
 
Haven't checked in in awhile. Sorry. The PU bushing replace the OEM rubber ones, and attach via a brace to the chassis. It is not necessary to take the wheels off, although the front ones are hard to get at, the rear ones are quite easy. The support jacks are suppose to go on the side of the car, you are correct at the jack positions. Their is also a jack position in the middle of the front and in the back. An easy way to have the wheels loaded while accessing the underneath, is to buy a 2x10x12 board, cut it on a diagonal into 4 pieces, place each before the tire, and then roll the car onto the boards. It gives you a little extra clearance for working under the car, or alternatively, you can lift the car up from the central lift points and put the either front or rear axle wheels on ramps. You can easily work on the bar mounts from there, it is safe,if the ramps are safe, and the suspension is loaded.
 
That is what I have done in the past, carefully, and it has worked well, using every safety procaution possible. Grease the bushing well. Do not over tighten. Using a stubby ended rachet wrench made things much easier in front.
 
Hope that helps.
 
abfisch
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Re: Support position clarification, please absfich, jwadle1 [abfisch] by hawiianavowner
Jun 13, 2007 (10:36 pm)
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Replying to: abfisch (Jun 12, 2007 8:19 am)

Thank you for replying, it is clearer now. I am going to recheck the diameter of the sway bars but I think the front was 17 mm. I do have ramps made from railroad ties, but may borrow some metal ones as I don't want to take chances beneath the car.
 
Thanks again!
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Re: Support position clarification, please absfich, jwadle1 [hawiianavowner] by hawiianavowner
Jun 14, 2007 (9:33 pm)
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Replying to: hawiianavowner (Jun 13, 2007 10:36 pm)

Just a few more questions:
 
Do I have to take the sway bar links off also? It seems that the the upper end of the link would be hard to remove unless the wheel was off. So if no wheel removal, are you saying to just unbolt the lower end of the link in order to remove sway bar?
Also if I do have to remove the links, do they have bushings or washers or anything else that may need changing?
If so I'll have to get them ahead of time from the dealer.
 
thanks again, i really appreciate it.
#104 of 150
Re: Support position clarification, please absfich, jwadle1 [hawiianavowner] by 55396
Jun 15, 2007 (6:41 am)
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Replying to: hawiianavowner (Jun 14, 2007 9:33 pm)

If you are only changing the sway bar bushings, you don't need to remove anything but the brackets for the bushings themselves. Just keep both sides of the car at the same height to avoid preload.
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Touring suspension vs. aftermarket by texases
Jun 15, 2007 (9:54 am)
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I'm considering a new Avalon, and was thinking about getting the touring suspension. Only problem is the lower-profile, shorter-life tires. Anyone have a preference on touring vs. XL+aftermarket shocks?
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Re: Touring suspension vs. aftermarket [texases] by abfisch
Jun 15, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: texases (Jun 15, 2007 9:54 am)

What a great question. I am not sure exactly what you get with the touring besides lower profile tires, and larger wheels. And, how much extra it is. When I bought my Avalon in 02, they did not have that option. And the diff. in the XLS, and all the electronic gizmos I really was not interested in anyway. Sometimes touring models, have more motorsport oriented parts, sometimes not.
 
If you don't want to mess around, I would think that the touring model is the way to go. I probably spent close to 2-3K modifying the Avalon, the way I wanted it. TokicoHPshocks, Energy Suspension PU bushings for the sway bars and control arms and obviously a new alignment, tax, and the hassle factor. The shocks I could not do myself, nor the control arms. The ride and handling are definitely unique, that is for sure. It doesn't ride like my BMW with the sports package, but I had a choice today and took the Avalon. I just wanted to put her in drive and go. Nothing more comfortable.
 
abfisch
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Re: Touring suspension vs. aftermarket [abfisch] by texases
Jun 15, 2007 (10:29 am)
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Replying to: abfisch (Jun 15, 2007 10:17 am)

Thanks for the info - I got interested in the touring when CandD had it finishing first among 6cyl sporty but mainstream sedans.

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