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Re: Do you have a stick shift or an auto? [bottgers]
by terceltom
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Oct 03, 2008 (6:36 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 03, 2008 4:39 am)
This "bonehead" got an "86" five speed manual Tercel with 158,000 miles on it never did a dam thing to the transmission, including adding fluid because it didn't need it, and the whole car still runs great. Other than the tranny the car is well taken care of. Clutch replaced once at 98,000 miles. Oil changed every 3,000 miles. But I understand what you are saying, it's best not to take any chances.
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- #108 of 156
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Re: Do you have a stick shift or an auto? [terceltom]
by mcdawgg
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Oct 03, 2008 (8:05 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 03, 2008 6:36 am)
Bottgers is saying to replace AUTOMATIC tranny fluid, not manual.
As stated before, I replaced my manual tranny oil at 60k, and probably won't do it again until 160k. If I had an automatic, I'd replace the fluid a lot more often.
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- #109 of 156
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Re: Do you have a stick shift or an auto? [terceltom]
by bottgers
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Oct 03, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 03, 2008 6:36 am)
I'm only talking about auto trannies. Manual trannies are all together different. For one thing, they don't have tranny fluid in them, they have oil. The oil should also be changed, but I think the maintenance schedule only calls for it to be changed every 60K miles or so. Manual trannies are much more forgiving when it comes to fluid changes. I've known people who have put literally hundreds of thousands of miles on their manuals without ever changing the oil with no problems at all. Auto trannies aren't that forgiving. My '99 Corolla has 160K miles on it and the tranny oil has only been changed once and it still has the original clutch and is doing fine. If it had an auto tranny I'd be getting it flushed every 30K religously.
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- #110 of 156
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Re: Do you have a stick shift or an auto? [mcdawgg]
by terceltom
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Oct 03, 2008 (10:36 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 03, 2008 8:05 am)
No, in message #106 he was indeed referring to manual transmissions and that was the message my reply was for. My point was that manual trannys are "more forgiving" as he states, and I agree as my old car is a very good example.
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- #111 of 156
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by bottgers
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Oct 03, 2008 (11:44 am)
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The "he" who posted that was me and I was referring to auto trannies. Re-read my post. I mentioned "tranny fluid" more than once in that post and manual trannies don't use tranny fluid.
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Re: [bottgers]
by terceltom
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Oct 04, 2008 (5:19 am)
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Replying to: bottgers (Oct 03, 2008 11:44 am)
"My Mazda MPV manual doesn't say anything about changing the fluid......ever! Any bonehead knows that's not gonna cut it!"
Wasn't this bonehead remark made to those who don't change their manual transmission ever? Again, this is where my reply was referring.
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Re: [terceltom]
by mcdawgg
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Oct 04, 2008 (12:10 pm)
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Replying to: terceltom (Oct 04, 2008 5:19 am)
He means owners manual, and he said fluid, meaning automatic tranny. I don't think an MPV is even available with a manual.
Just trying to clear up a little mis-understanding.
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Re: [mcdawgg]
by terceltom
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Oct 05, 2008 (2:18 pm)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Oct 04, 2008 12:10 pm)
Gottcha! But, the first three years of the Mazda MPV were available with manual transmissions and Bottgers does state in message #101 and #108 that his was indeed one of those manual transmission equipped models. Thanks anyway for explaining his intentions.
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- #116 of 156
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terceltom
by bottgers
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Oct 06, 2008 (8:17 am)
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Why are you so hung up on this? I told you I was talking about automatic transmissions ONLY. Are you calling me a liar? Are you just looking for an argument? Let it go dude! And for the record I never said my MPV was a manual. Why would I say that when it's an automatic?
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