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Re: sambesue [bobwiley] by magrezza
Aug 19, 2006 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 18, 2006 9:29 am)

I wish to add the following, in regard to this discussion:
 
1. Rain-ex works well, however, beware that it will cause your windshield wipers to wear out faster. Considering the cost of Avalon's propietary wipers, this could be a consideration. Inasmuch as this works, RAIN-EX is NOT window cleaner, rather, a window treatment.
 
2. If you live in a climate with any type of humidity, and you drive with the windows open, the inside of the windshield is going to continue to get a film, of sorts, on the inside. I speak of this from 16 years of life in the Caribbean. Due to how much I HATE cleaning my windows, I NEVER EVER drive with them open. I literally open and close as fast as possible. This may very well be the film you are describing, which believe me, has NOTHING TO DO with gases from vinyl and leather in the car. I have proven this to myself, over and over again, where each time I decide to "save gas" by opening the windows, they get fogged up in three days, to the point where I can't see out of them at night.
 
3. It is not necessary to use ammonia-free cleaners, unless you have aftermarket window tinting. If you do, however, and you use windex ONCE, you can ruin your tint, as it WILL turn indigo blue.
 
4. I never spray any products inside my car--always on the toweling material, and then wipe. If you get vinyl products on the glass, you will be cleaning glass a while. If you get ammonia or alcohol on your vinyl, it will dry.
 
5. The very best vinyl product is Vinylex by Lexol--available at Pep Boys, or online at Bavarian Autosport.
 
6. I can't imagine putting something as cheap and tacky on my $44K (no, that is not a typo) Avalon as a dash mat. If you have all windows tinted--yes, ALL, with the darkest legal tint in your state, NEVER leave the car without the back shade up, the sunroof shade closed, and a reflective window shade in the windshield, you will have no heat problems. My cars are not garaged, stay in full tropical sun all day long, and I have no problems with heat, or drying leather or vinyl.
 
7. Leather seats, as nice as they are, can be a lot of work to keep up, unless you don't mind dried, stained leather. Again, Lexol products are superior to cheaper ones. If you live with either extreme heat or cold (not many don't), then I recommend cleaning and conditioning every 6-8 weeks. Remember, YOU CANNOT RESTORE MOISTURE TO VINYL OR LEATHER, only make it look better. It is like hair; once it's damaged, there is only so much you can do--preventing drying is the best defense.
 
8. While I'm typing--if you want your paint to look it's best, avoid "one step" products. Effective paint care requires three, yes three, steps: Clean, Glaze, and Wax. I always do two coats of the last two, and this means five, yes, five, coats on the car (in my case every three months). If you take the time to do this, your car will look new for as long as you own it, literally.
 
All just my opinion, however, after years of trial and error experience, and always detailing my own cars, or, hiring people to work with me under my very direct supervision.
 
Regards, to all.
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Re: sambesue [magrezza] by nimimi
Aug 19, 2006 (4:31 pm)
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Replying to: magrezza (Aug 19, 2006 3:42 pm)

Just a comment on the window film. Our average humidity is less than 20% and temp in Summer is generally betwenn 85 and 110 deg. F. My '06 LTD gathers film that has to be removed with window cleaner (I use Stoners) at least every two weeks. If the windows are left open a little while the car sits in the sun, the film doesn't appear so quickly.
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Re: sambesue [magrezza] by thegadgetguru
Aug 19, 2006 (4:40 pm)
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Replying to: magrezza (Aug 19, 2006 3:42 pm)

Absolutely Great Advice! It's refreshing to hear someone using common "car care" sense as opposed to blaming window hazing on vapors emitted from plastic. That sounds like something a dealer's Service Manager would say as an excuse.
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Re: sambesue [magrezza] by bobwiley
Aug 19, 2006 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: magrezza (Aug 19, 2006 3:42 pm)

magrezza: What I advised folks to use was Rain-X Window Cleaner--not the regular Rain-X Window Treatment. Can't imagine a $44K Avalon unless you're Canadian? I have a LOADED 06 Silver Pine Mica Limited--Nav, Laser Cruise, VSC & Trac Control Remote Start, XM Radio, body side moldings, spalsh guards, pin stripes, wheel locks, floor & trunk mats, spoiler, dealer installed tinted windows and window wind deflectors--MSRP was $39,715. Only other option was DVD System--about $1,900 and $220 if ya got the special Blizzard Pearl paint. Please list the options that brought your Avalon to $44K?! I failed to menton that I use Vaseline on the leather---nothing better---moisturizes and keeps it soft--just like when momma used it on us! Learned that trick from a guy who has spent over 40 years in the detail business. BTW---the dash mat matches the dash and works great.
VR
Bob
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Re: sambesue [bobwiley] by magrezza
Aug 20, 2006 (6:26 am)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 19, 2006 7:08 pm)

Responses to above:
 
1. In Puerto Rico, taxes on vehicles that have an MSRP of about $25K or more, are about 30%; I have a 2006 Blizzard White Limited, no XMS, no Nav, No autostart, No wind deflectors, No spoiler, and everything else you list above, otherwise. If the vehicle's base MSRP is higher than about 60%, then, in some cases, the tax can reach 100%. A new Mercedes S Class, for example, prices out at about $140K.
 
2. Whatever the climate or humidity, I certainly vote for the climate effect, as opposed to any strange gases that are fogging our windows. My advice, based upon comments here, is that we all test combinations of open and closed windows, and do whatever works best. In my case, for example, if I literally only open my windows to talk to security guards at gated communities I visit, I can go two months without having to clean the inside of my windshield. If leather and vinyl cleaners and protectants give off gas, then they certainly don't fog your windows. I use so much of this stuff that my friends make fun of me when they get in my car, and I've never had gassed windows from use of these products.
 
3. My apologies for the misunderstanding about Rain-ex. I wasn't aware that they made a window cleaner. I'm sure it's very good. I still wouldnt' use the windshiled protect on my car, for reasons previously mentioned.
 
4. Car washing tip: I use my Ortho garden sprayer more for my car than anything else. No bucket needed; simply pour a couple tablespoons of car washing liquid in the container, and set as you wish. Spray works to rinse, and also spray product on the car.
 
5. Another note: you should NEVER, EVER, EVER--even if you are going to wax your car--use any type of dishwashing detergent on your paint.
 
6. I have proven to myself that, even car washing products that claim to "not strip wax" can, if you use them in a high concentration. If your car is very dirty, DO NOT use a lot of cleaner, rather, wash the car two, or even three, times, as necessary.
 
7. NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, use any "no touch" alloy wheel cleaning products on your alloy wheels. What do you think is strong enough to remove brake dust without rubbing--ACID, of course! Even when used as directed, over time, you will remove the clearcoat on the wheels. I use the same product for wheels as my paint, along with a stiff wheel brush, and they look as good as the day I bought the car. I also recommend that, if your dealer washes your car as part of service, CLEARLY STATE that they are not to use such products on your wheels. I once had the wheels of a new BMW convertible ruined BY THE DEALER when they did this to my car. They obviously left whatever they were using far too long, and masked this with silicone spray. It wasn't until one week later, when I washed the car myself, that I realized my wheels had NO LAQUER. They refused to respond, and I had to have them clear-coated at a body shop to hide the damage!
 
Regards, to all!
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Re: sambesue [magrezza] by bobwiley
Aug 20, 2006 (11:13 am)
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Replying to: magrezza (Aug 20, 2006 6:26 am)

Wow---and we thihk we're taxed--I feel for ya!! I agree wit all your NEVER's--right to the point. Also, NEVER wash or wax a car in the sunlight. Something that works well to get off brake dust--WD-40--YES WD-40---won't harm anything--it's fish oil based! Maybe what we need is aForum with all the "little" car cleaning tips folks have learned.
Bob
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Re: sambesue [bobwiley] by nimimi
Aug 20, 2006 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 20, 2006 11:13 am)

You must work for the oil companies -- encouraging petroleum based products to be used on leather (Vaseline) and wheels (WD-40)!
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Re: sambesue [nimimi] by bobwiley
Aug 20, 2006 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: nimimi (Aug 20, 2006 12:06 pm)

nimimi: Sorry--not associated with the oil companies! Check out WD-40--it is fish oil based--not petroleum! Vaseline works great--so I use it! I "gob it on", close the windows on a hot day and then go out and rub more into the leather/vinyl--soft as a baby's bottom!!
Bob
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Re: sambesue [bobwiley] by nimimi
Aug 20, 2006 (5:03 pm)
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Replying to: bobwiley (Aug 20, 2006 4:06 pm)

Gee, Bob. The WD-40 I have says "MAY BE FATAL. . . contains petroleum distillates." Doesn't sound too "fishy."
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Re: sambesue [nimimi] by bobwiley
Aug 21, 2006 (7:00 am)
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Replying to: nimimi (Aug 20, 2006 5:03 pm)

I'll check the can---I use WD-40 for many things--getting the sticky stuff off after you remove price labels, keeps rust off saw blades and spray it on you fishing lures--works better than the expensive fish attractants! FYI--WD--stands for Water Displacement and the # 40 is because it was the 40th formula that worked. It was developed in 1953 to protect missle parts. Workers were so impressed with it, they begang to "borrow" it! About 2.5 million gallons are produced each year. The Statue of Lberty loves it--they use it to protect her! Go on Goggle and read about WD-40---it'll amaze ya! You're right about the petroleum--original formula was fish oil based-----the distinctive smell was from a fragrance added during brewing.
Bob
Bob

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