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#328 of 353 Changing the VVTi Line by tfelton Jun 22, 2009 (7:34 am)
As I mentioned in a previous post last week I would go to my Toyota dealer today and ask about the replacement Pipe Oil No. 2 all metal line. The Toyota Service Mgr. said he has seen a few leaking rubber lines through the years. I have scheduled to have the line replaced and it will be done tomorrow since they had to order the part. The cost is $39.22 for the part and $126.00 for labor. Replies to this message: popsavalon (Jun 22, 2009 1:52 pm) kenb757 (Jun 23, 2009 8:10 am) popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 1:13 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2009 3:52 pm) and 1 more... cmontano (Jun 23, 2009 4:23 pm)
#329 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [tfelton] by popsavalon Jun 22, 2009 (1:52 pm)
Replying to: tfelton (Jun 22, 2009 7:34 am) That is a very reasonable price for the "fix", the price of the part and about 2 hrs. labor, which it will take to install the new metal line. Your service manager obviously realizes what he he needs to do to keep you as a satisfied Toyota owner.   It is an upgrade that is definitely worth the peace of mind it gives. I was becoming very reluctant to go "out of town" until I got the metal line.
#330 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [tfelton] by kenb757 Jun 23, 2009 (8:10 am)
Replying to: tfelton (Jun 22, 2009 7:34 am) Why wouldn't this repair be covered under the powertrain warranty? Replies to this message: popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 1:13 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2009 3:52 pm) popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 6:39 pm) cmontano (Jun 23, 2009 4:23 pm)
#331 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [kenb757] by popsavalon Jun 23, 2009 (1:13 pm)
Replying to: kenb757 (Jun 23, 2009 8:10 am) It probably should be, but Toyota has not published a TSB or done anything to acknowledge that a non-leaking rubber/metal hose can fail without warning and drain most of the oil out of the engine.   At the present, the all metal replacement is merely an "upgrade" at the owner's expense if there is no leak from the existing hose. If there is a leak under warranty, either minor or catastropic, the dealer will replace the defective part with another rubber hose unless you purchase the all metal upgrade for him to install.   This will get to be (is) a real can of worms for the 2GR-FE (V-6) engines as folks drive them past the warranty mileage and experience oil line failures. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2009 3:52 pm) popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 6:39 pm)
#332 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [popsavalon] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jun 23, 2009 (3:52 pm)
Replying to: popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 1:13 pm) Sounds like if someone's really worried they could just slip a larger diameter rubber hose over the existing one, to eliminate the possibility of chafing. That's probably what I'd do if I owned this model. Then, if Toyota decides to replace the line for free, I'd take it in. Replies to this message: popsavalon (Jun 23, 2009 6:39 pm)
#333 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [kenb757] by cmontano Jun 23, 2009 (4:23 pm)
Replying to: kenb757 (Jun 23, 2009 8:10 am) It's funny that you would ask that question. The powertrain warranty is 5 years/60,000 miles my car has 61,800 so at the end of the day I called the corporate office and threw a fit, the dealership called me today and said they would fix it free of charge. Toyota needs to admit they made a crappy part and recall it.
#334 of 353 Mine is all metal! by stoneybroke Jun 23, 2009 (4:54 pm)
Popped the hood on my 08 Touring today, and found that the VVTi line is all metal. My car was manufactured in April, 2008.
#335 of 353 Re: Changing the VVTi Line [Mr_Shiftright] by popsavalon Jun 23, 2009 (6:39 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jun 23, 2009 3:52 pm) Your ideas are proven fixes, but have no practical application to this issue. You really need to look under the hood of an Avalon and realize that you cannot even see but about 1" of the subject rubber hose above a foam lined timing cover. Even touching it is very difficult. The line then snakes down under the engine block and the lower connection is barely visible when the vehicle is on an overhead rack. Adding a larger dia. hose for protection would be impossible, and even inspecting the existing line for "chafing" would require some disassembly. This is why the problem is almost impossible to diagnose until oil drips on the ground.
#336 of 353 check engine with vsc & vsc off sign in Avalon 2000 by mhassan Jul 07, 2009 (10:20 am)
Couple of days ago the check engine with vsc and vscoff light come on my Toyota Avalon 2000 xls. Mileage: 143k. Observed little vibration(sometimes). Recently I did minor tuning & change the water pump due to overheating. I checked it to a local machanic, found three codes. P1130, P1133 & P1135. What are the meanings of these? Is it costly to repair? Should I go to dealer. You know they are very expensive. Please help me.   Thanks
#337 of 353 Avalons Using All-Metal VVTi Lines for How Long? by mylasttoyota1 Sep 16, 2009 (9:05 pm)
My 2006 Avalon dumped all its oil in the road due to a hole in the rubber segment of the VVTi line which is metal-rubber-metal. I've read a lot here about the all-metal part 15772-31030 which is a Lexus part that some have used in place of the metal-rubber part called for in the Avalon TSB EG064-05. The Toyota service manager said that a Toyota engineer told him that the rubber containing part is for flexibility on the Avalon and other models because these engines vibrate more than the Lexus which is built to be more stable. Does anyone know of a successful installation of the all-metal part in the Avalon and for what time duration? Both parts arrive at the dealer in a couple days and I need to make a decision. Thanks. Replies to this message: jrwyatt (Sep 17, 2009 2:28 am) popsavalon (Sep 17, 2009 5:21 am) smudgy2 (Oct 04, 2009 4:49 am) 06avalonratl (Oct 20, 2009 2:44 pm) bengee (Oct 20, 2009 6:50 pm) mylasttoyota1 (Nov 13, 2009 5:18 am) popsavalon (Nov 13, 2009 5:46 am) paul3637 (Nov 13, 2009 6:30 am) and 2 more...

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