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Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 by bigroz8000
May 15, 2009 (6:07 am)
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Hello. I am going to be replacing the struts on my 2002 Toyota Avalalon XL. I am trying to decide between the Monroe Sensa Trac strut and the KYB GR2 strut. The car has a lot of shimmy at high speeds. I prefer a more comfortable, smooth ride. I am older and not looking to make this in to a sports car. Just want to restore the ride to the way it was when I bought it. Any help with this decision is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [bigroz8000] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 15, 2009 (6:14 am)
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Replying to: bigroz8000 (May 15, 2009 6:07 am)

Before you start, what do you mean by "shimmy"? If you mean you can feel the steering wheel moving back and forth, that's not struts, that's wheel balance most likely, or a bent rim, or out of round tire.
 
if you mean the car wanders around the road, new struts might help that but this is often an alignment or front end bushing issue.
 
Bad struts will give you a "wallowing" feeling (pitching, moving side to side, bouncing up and down) when braking, going around turns, or over bumps. In other words, bad struts show up when the suspension is under some stress.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [Mr_Shiftright] by bigroz8000
May 15, 2009 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 15, 2009 6:14 am)

Thanks for the response. It is much appreciated. I don't feel the steering wheel moving back and forth. It is more like the car wanders around the road. I notice it the most at high speeds on highways that are not smooth or have a lot of pitch to them. Also, the car does not handle the bumps very well. The problem started at around 50,000 miles on the car and never really got better with new tires, alignments, and balancing. It now has 93000 miles. Have had it looked at by Toyota, Tires Plus, and an independent mechanic but nothing was found wrong with any aspect of the suspension. I am not really sure what to do. Don't want to play hit or miss with fixing it but the car seems to be all over the road and I am worried that I am damaging something by driving it. Let me know what you think and thanks again for the help.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [bigroz8000] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 15, 2009 (11:36 am)
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Replying to: bigroz8000 (May 15, 2009 10:12 am)

Okay given the description of symptoms and the mileage on the car, new struts would not be a bad decision in any case. But I think an alignment should be done as well. Normally you don't have to do an alignment when replacing struts but in your case it might be good to at least check it. If you can get Bilstein shocks for your car, they are really great---but probably more $$$ than the other two you mention.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [Mr_Shiftright] by bigroz8000
May 15, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 15, 2009 11:36 am)

Thanks again for the help. I just checked but unfortunately they do not make Blistein struts for an 02 Avalon. Just a few more questions for you. Is there much of a difference in ride comfort between the Monroe and the KYB. Also, would you recommend that I replace my strut mounts as well. Any ideas on what a reasonable price would be for this. I will definitely get the alignment. Thanks for all the great information. This is the first time I have used this forum. I will definitely use again. Thanks for making it a great first experience. Your help is very much appreciated.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [bigroz8000] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
May 15, 2009 (2:08 pm)
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Replying to: bigroz8000 (May 15, 2009 12:27 pm)

I'm not real keen on KYB or Monroe. Why don't you research Boge and see if they make a shock for your car.
 
As for strut mounts, they can be inspected when the strut is off. In the rear, I'd look for rusted mount bolts or cracked rubber. If the rubber mount and studs look clean and healthy,you are good.
 
In the front, there's the addition of not only rubber and studs to look at, but a BEARING in the mount that lets the wheels turn on the strut. Here, too, I'd only replace these based on some visible defects---or in the case of the front strut, if you get "memory steering", which means you turn the wheel and everything's fine but when you expect the wheel to come back to the straight position after the turn, it may hesitate to do so and feel stiff. That's usually a bad steering mount bearing.
 
Boge or Bilstein is 2X the shock of the other too, and worth the price.
 
If you have no choices, I'd go with the KYB GR2s.
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Re: Monroe Sensa Trac or KYB GR2 [Mr_Shiftright] by bigroz8000
May 16, 2009 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (May 15, 2009 2:08 pm)

Thanks for the great advice. I am going to look in to the Boge struts. Have a great weekend.
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Multiple warning lights by gohawaiian
May 19, 2009 (4:38 pm)
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Has anyone experienced several malfunction/warning lights coming on at the same time, without any prior event that might have caused this (such as a panic stop, etc.)? I started my 2005 Avalon one morning last week, after it sat unused overnight, and found that the "check engine", "VSC" and traction control warning lights all illuminated. The same warning lights continue to come on since then and I have since discovered that the adaptive cruise control is also not working ("E3" code displays when attempting to engage cruise control). Car is being serviced today, by dealer - technician seems clueless at this point about what would cause this and wants to charge me for the electronics diagnosis which they claim is not covered under the Toyota extended warranty (7 years, 100K miles) I have. Anyone else have this happen to their car?
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Re: Multiple warning lights [gohawaiian] by tjc78
May 20, 2009 (3:31 am)
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Replying to: gohawaiian (May 19, 2009 4:38 pm)

Can't tell you what is wrong with your car.... however I can tell you that if a condition arises that triggers the check engine light the VSC/TRAC system is disabled and turns those lights on as well. Since the laser cruise uses those systems it probably is disabled as well.
 
As for the charge to diagnose, isn't this deducted from the bill if you choose to have it fixed?
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Re: Multiple warning lights [gohawaiian] by wwest
May 20, 2009 (5:06 am)
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Replying to: gohawaiian (May 19, 2009 4:38 pm)

Could be something as simple as a gas filler cap not fully tightened or someone removed the cap with filling the tank.

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