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Replying to: kersten (May 27, 2006 6:01 am) |
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Hello everyone. I have 2006 Avalon and I'm approaching the 15K mile mark. Has anyone gotten the 15K mile service from the dealer? Is/Was that necessary. I read the manual and many of the things says "check" rather than "replace" The dealer tells me the book is wrong and they replace many items. He tells me if I don't get this service done, I could void my Warranty. In the past, I've always gotten 30K and 60K service on all my previous cars and they've run well. Honda and Nissan. Any suggestions
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Replying to: sanandton (Nov 07, 2004 5:54 pm) David
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Replying to: unknown (Nov 07, 2006 3:30 pm) Roland |
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Replying to: unknown (Nov 08, 2006 3:00 am) I work in Northern Canada, for one of Canada's largest producers of Synthetic Crude Oil. (450,000BPD) Synthetic oil will not hurt your car from new. As you mentioned it is a factory fill for many cars. Where I live we see -45C temps and regular regular oil just won't stay fluid. Synthetic oil is out of the ground just like what you'll here people call Dino oil. The difference is how it is hydrotreated (removal of sulfur and nitrogen as Hydrogen sulphide gas and ammonia respectively and turning Hydrogen double bonds, into single bonds removing diolefins & olefins which are the waxes in your oil]. The process of upgrading the synthetic oil, also equals a very consistant molecular weight. Which is why it flows well in cold and doesn't break down in heat. They do not need to add as many additives to the oil to make it perform in minus degrees or plus degrees. Non-synthetic oil may have some molecules that are a weight of 1 and some that are a weight of 100, but the average comes to 5 (this differece increases the need for additives to make the oil exibit the desired weight properties, pour point, flash point, froc point etc...). Where in synt the weight comes very close to 5 across the different cut points of the oil > less need for additives I know that is alot of detail, but in short Synthetic oil and "regular oil" can come from the same base stock, the difference is in the upgrading. Where I work we extract the oil from sand (oil sand). The difference is how it is treated before it gets to you. Hope that helps, Netwon |
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Replying to: unknown (Nov 08, 2006 3:00 am) runs fine,if the dealers never use syn,how do they know you have to wait for 15k miles.
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Replying to: oilcan2 (Nov 08, 2006 10:28 am) Roland |
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Nov 09, 2006 2:51 am) Net |
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Replying to: rpfingsten (Nov 09, 2006 2:51 am) but I have been using it over 25 years in all my vehicles, they have a broader range of oils,they make their own oil and air filters.I am a dealer but mainly to get the oil easier,will get to anyone who wants it for my cost.they do not have a filter for the av yet so I have been using the toyota one.I will probably change the filter at around the 4 or 5k life of the oil and go from there.(will check color and maybe take a oil sample).
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Replying to: oilcan2 (Nov 09, 2006 10:45 am) Bottom line: Use Amsoil or Mobil 1, you are 450% better off then conventional oil if you drive with heavy loads, extream heat conditions or cold conditions. (Or just like me, like to have the peace of mind knowing that your 25k+ baby is looked after to the best of your ability. Would you agree? Netwon
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