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Lexus RX 400h: Driving Tips & Tricks

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Re: Driving in snow & ice and gas mileage in cold [wwest] by stevedebi
Feb 07, 2006 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Feb 07, 2006 6:40 am)

"No, they actually "cool" the battery compartment in order to remove the heat from the batteries being continuously charged and discharged."
 
Thanks for the update, but the point is the same - the batteries are not cold, they are warm...
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Re: Driving in snow & ice and gas mileage in cold [stevedebi] by skyfish400h
Feb 09, 2006 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: stevedebi (Feb 07, 2006 3:21 pm)

The batteries used in the 400h are more sensitive to thermal extremes than your typical lead/acid. Because of that Toyota needed to take more care to ensure that the batteries will be a peak performance when needed.
 
On cold days when the batteries are colder than their operating range they will be of dimminished use to the HSD system. As the interior of the car warms up (or if heaters are used in the battery compartment) then they will "come on line" as they reach operating temp. While this is happening you are burning gas and therefore getting less fuel efficiency in cold weather.
 
Conversely, that same is true on hot days when the batteries are above their operating temp. They will not be able to supply peak current and therefore the gas engine will have to pick up the demand.
 
Just as a point of observation, I think the main reason the batteries are inside the cabin with the passengers is that they perform best with the same thermal range as is comfortable for humans. There is a synergy there.
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Re: Driving in snow & ice and gas mileage in cold [skyfish400h] by stevedebi
Feb 10, 2006 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: skyfish400h (Feb 09, 2006 11:23 am)

"Just as a point of observation, I think the main reason the batteries are inside the cabin with the passengers is that they perform best with the same thermal range as is comfortable for humans. There is a synergy there."
 
Hmmm, cuddle up with your hybrid batteries, anyone?
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Driving on the beach by vpotluri
Mar 06, 2006 (7:45 am)
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Is the RX 400h driveable on sand? I need a vehicle that can be driven off-road, expecially loose sand on beach as I go surf fishing frequently. Does the manual for this vehicle have anything to say about settings for driving on sand? Any opinions are appreaciated. Thanks.
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Re: Driving on the beach [vpotluri] by gagrice
Mar 06, 2006 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: vpotluri (Mar 06, 2006 7:45 am)

You should read this test drive review.
 
Though we tried the RX 400h on a couple of cane haul roads, Lexus engineers were quick to point out that although the RX 400h is technically an all-wheel-drive vehicle, it's not a capable off-roader. True, the mass majority that will buy this hybrid SUV won't ever take on any thing worse that a graded dirt road, or on snow. However, sand is to be avoided. With the aft electric motor being air cooled, there's a concern for excessive heat build up, which would cause the system to shut down (to protect itself), temporarily leaving its passengers stranded. If you want to go off road, the Lexus RX 400h is not for you.
 
lolop, "Lexus RX 400h" #477, 18 Nov 2004 9:20 pm
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Re: Driving on the beach [vpotluri] by katzjamr
Mar 06, 2006 (7:38 pm)
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Replying to: vpotluri (Mar 06, 2006 7:45 am)

beach driving or loose sand is a bad idea for the 400h. it is possible for one of the electric motors to overheat in that situation, perhaps shutting down or burning out.
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Re: Driving on the beach [gagrice] by katzjamr
Mar 06, 2006 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 06, 2006 7:37 pm)

looks like i will have to learn to post one minute before you gagrice, LOL
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Re: Driving on the beach [katzjamr] by gagrice
Mar 06, 2006 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: katzjamr (Mar 06, 2006 7:40 pm)

I hesitated to respond as it would look like I am too anti-hybrid. I would hate to see someone pay that kind of money and get stuck on the beach. Not to mention the salt damage to a $50k vehicle. An old beater jeep is the best way to go.
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I'm glad as an owner you agree with my advice.
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Re: Driving on the beach [gagrice] by katzjamr
Mar 06, 2006 (8:42 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Mar 06, 2006 7:51 pm)

dont ever hesitate to respond when your information is accurate and aimed at helping someone, i was also going to suggest he check out the FJ Cruiser, Car and Driver has a recent review of sorts, and im by no means a mopar person however the new Jeep rubicon with its new engine looks like a great choice for off road.
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Re: Driving on the beach [katzjamr] by gagrice
Mar 07, 2006 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: katzjamr (Mar 06, 2006 8:42 pm)

The Fj has my attention, looks good. I really did like my 64 LC, especially off road. I like wandering around the desert when the flowers are in bloom. Sand can be very tricky and hard on a vehicle.

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