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Still haven't answered my question... Don't the brakes still work in neutral? Yes. So why not just use them? troy
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Replying to: electrictroy (Mar 29, 2005 12:15 pm) me: Yes and the accelerator works too - well it works to rev the engine, but if in neutral it doesn't work the wheels. And some safety professionals (supposedly) have done an analysis that says it is better to have brakes and acceleration. An example? Improbable? probably. But it only has to happen 1 time. If you're wrong you're dead. You're coasting down a hill and a truck behind you loses its brakes, or they're overheating. I think I'd want to accelerate, not brake.  So the choice is save a little gas, or increase the risk to your life. Your life is worth saving a little gas?
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Replying to: kernick (Mar 31, 2005 10:02 am) . I would not accelerate (there might be a curve ahead). I would move to the left lane, brake hard, and let him pass. Sorry guys, but I don't see anything wrong with coasting downhill in neutral. My brakes still work... I can still avoid obstacles, simply by braking. troy |
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Coasting in neutral takes away some of your options as far as controlling your vehicle goes. You may be able to brake, and you may be able to steer, but if one or both of those options gets you into a situation where you need to accelerate, the time you're going to lose getting back into gear is going to cost you. You simply don't know what's going to come at you from what direction on the road (or from off the road for that matter).
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Apr 01, 2005 7:51 am) And if people don't get it, I hope that they get a few tickets and then they may realize that just because they don't get it, doesn't mean it isn't right.
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Replying to: pf_flyer (Apr 01, 2005 7:51 am) Take a manual shift and leave the car in gear, but push in the clutch, if you are really concerned about getting back in gear. Your fail-safe mode is if you take you foot off of the clutch. Then again of the three handling characteristics: Braking, steering and acceleration , the least used in a critical situation is acceleration. If I were the judge and IMOHO, we are making much to do about nothing , Neutral indeed does saves gas, imposes minimal if any additioanl risk and it is time to move on and let go all the negative, by the way unsubtantiatied, discussion about shifting into neutral to save gas. The Neutral shift wins and the trail is dismissed. If you guys are trully manual shift driver and you really are hypermilers then shifting to neutral can save gas. I think shifting into neutral with a CVT or stnadrd auto or a shift gate, if pretty stupid. My experience with variousautos is that you are not always assured you are moving the slector quickly to the right gear. The push buttons on the steering wheel or a +/- gate shift between gears and not to neutral. I think a MANUAL SHIFT Honda Civic Hybrid or a MANUAL SHIFT Honda Insight could gain additional miles per gallon by coasting in Neutral. Personally I am neutral about this issue, MidCow |
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Name a situation where the two options brake -or- steer are not adequate? I can't think of any. troy
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Replying to: electrictroy (Apr 01, 2005 9:42 am) kirstie_h Roving Host Host, Future Vehicles & Smart Shopper discussions
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Replying to: kirstie_h (Apr 01, 2005 10:08 am) . I'm not aware of any mountain roads that have space for parked cars. (Yes, I was discussing coasting in neutral down a mountain.) troy |
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Replying to: electrictroy (Apr 04, 2005 7:24 am) But if you don't like those, then just go back to whether it is legal or not in your state. If it's illegal, the point is moot - you don't do it. Just as you stop at a STOP sign whether other cars are there or not. I think everyone could get much better mpg if they didn't have to stop at signs or lights when they didn't see anyone coming. Do you endorse that people ignore those laws if it doesn't make sense to stop at those times. Because someone doesn't see the sense of a law, they can ignore it? Back to topic: anyone hear rumors about the new Civics? Are all the models including the hybrid getting mpg increases? Will they still have those annoying timing-belts? |
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