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Vineeta.org [gazguzler] by gagrice
Aug 27, 2005 (9:22 am)
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I am enjoying the Vineeta website. I am curious. Do you plan to take your HH on 3rd world journeys?
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Re: BALT2NYC [ulev] by gazguzler
Aug 27, 2005 (9:39 am)
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ulev,
 
I do share your view that older T's are bullet proof (literally in our case). T stopped making the 22RE for the same reason the textile industry stopped making polyester . . . it never wears out and that's bad for business.
 
The HH could've never made that trip. And only a fool would try as there's not technician outside Japan and N America who can even work on one, never mind that it’s really a Camry. (To answer your question, gagrice, we will do a short one to Alaska next year and then later try a modified world tour with less offroad when there's more H support from T).
 
We got a rock-steady 20mpg with a mix of in city, hwy and offroad and the later would've left the HH with burned out motors and no undercarriage. (Sorry, no screen shot for this).
 
My wife and kids (3 and 5 – born on the way) did that trip (so you can be sure I wouldn’t risk brakes or steering) and that car’s the best thing I’ve ever owned and the HH will be a cube of crush metal before the 4R ever sees a grave. My wife, to this day, won’t drive the HH and still loves the 4R. I don’t think I have to tell you how the kids feel about the 4R as they literally grew up in it.
 
I will never wax poetic about the HH as I do about the 4R.
 
The HH is not for everyone or every environment (though it is better for the environment). It's sadly not all it could be. The world doesn't need an SUV that goes under 7 seconds in 0-60. It needs an SUV that goes over 40mpg and this could with 4cyl and p&g cruise control. I'll never change my opinion about that even if I break the 35mpg barrier by driving like Arnie Palmer on a golf course.
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Re: BALT2NYC [ulev] by cdptrap
Aug 27, 2005 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: ulev (Aug 27, 2005 7:17 am)

We truly appreciate your frustration and concern. Did not know you are an owner because I do not normally check back old posts.
 
I had exactly the same deep concern for the first 850+ miles even though we did not buy this car just for its MPG. It was returning only 22-26MPG regardless of what we did. My wife had to the voice of reason each time I computed the MPG at the pump.
 
We are now seeing low 29's from on-board calculation, subject to verification at fill-up. We compute our own MPG when we fill up and the difference is about +/- 0.015 gallon depending on if we top off. So we are confident that in our area, this car can achieve >= 30 MPG. May be in the fifth or sixth tank.
 
The MPG variables are terrain (hilly, mountainous, flat), driving style (P&G, aggressive), tire pressure (32?, 35?), distance (short, long) and someone said weather (A/C or no A/C).
 
Give it time, try P&G that suits your driving conditions and it may work out yet.
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Re: BALT2NYC [gazguzler] by gagrice
Aug 27, 2005 (10:11 am)
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Replying to: gazguzler (Aug 27, 2005 9:39 am)

we will do a short one to Alaska next year
 
The HH should be great for that. I work with a guy that goes back and forth to South Dakota twice a year in his Lincoln Town Car. The Alcan is like any other highway for the most part. It would be worth the effort to come all the way up to Prudhoe Bay. Then you will have been to both ends of the continents.
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Re: BALT2NYC [ulev] by gazguzler
Aug 27, 2005 (10:38 am)
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ulev,
 
If you've got a wager there please state is precisely. I didn't understand other than an artful escape from my wager, which was very clear and declined.
 
At least three posters understood from your post that you didn't have an HH. Re-read and see. I'm not doubting that you have an HH but you can't doubt that your post gave the opposite impression as everyone who replied thought you didn't.
 
But no biggie, we've moved on.
 
I didn't report to greenhybrid until I had 2.5k. It was under 2k that I got my most dissapointing results. As my average on green hybrid is still below 30mpg my first reports can't've been over 30mpg, logically. I think my first was 29.4 or something. Dont remember but my first report was after 2.5k and at a mpg below 30mpg. I've only added the NYC trip and beach to baltimore, as they're the only ones I've recorded.
 
Around the world was relevant to the 4R kill switch on brakes and steering that you brought up. Not HH. I was talking about nonH.
 
I don't know what else to say other than this is still insulting and way out-of-hand.
 
I'd again suggest that you discuss your car and techniques and I'll discuss mine and we don't deny what we can't know.
 
As for proof, I'm all for that. Tell me what wager you're willing to make.
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Re: BALT2NYC [gagrice] by gazguzler
Aug 27, 2005 (3:58 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 27, 2005 10:11 am)

You know, there's only 150 kms of road missing from Prudhoe Bay to Tierra del Fuego (Colombia-Panama border). And if they built a bridge (or had a ferry) from Alaska to Siberia, you could drive all the continents (Australia's an island) without a ship. Last I was there the Alcan's was gravel. Now it's paved?
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Re: BALT2NYC [gazguzler] by gagrice
Aug 27, 2005 (4:10 pm)
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Replying to: gazguzler (Aug 27, 2005 3:58 pm)

It is not all paved. They use some type of hardening agent that is really better than paving. It does not seem to get the frost heaves. I would recommend the Cassiar highway if you are going in the summer/fall time of year. It is much more scenic and cuts off 130 miles. the last time I drove it was 1994 and it was pretty good then.
 
We just befriended a French Canadian that has ridden his bicycle to the North and South of every continent. Prudhoe was his final leg. It took him 5 years. Very interesting stories. I can only be envious of you folks that have had the inner strength to leap out into the unknown whether in a vehicle, by foot or bicycle.
 
Thank you for sharing your website with us.
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Re: BALT2NYC [gagrice] by gazguzler
Aug 27, 2005 (4:30 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Aug 27, 2005 4:10 pm)

Thanks on the site.
 
I, when younger, biked Africa and it's the best (and certainly cheapest) way to travel. No arguement about MPG.
 
Am I understanding that you're in PB? Also there are two roads up? That'd be great because we'd do one up and one back down (but I thought there's only one).

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