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Toyota Highlander Hybrid Driving Tips & Tricks

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Re: BALT2NYC [gazguzler] by cdptrap
Aug 25, 2005 (9:01 am)
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Replying to: gazguzler (Aug 21, 2005 2:16 pm)

Gazguzler,
 
32 MPG is impressive! Can you please share techniques you are using?
 
We are past our third tank getting about 28.5. At start of fourth tank, we began with 29.7 for the first 40 miles and have since dropped to 29.1 at 74 miles. Looks like our techniques are not good enough to break the 30 MPG mark yet.
 
Keep up the "hyper miling" benchmark for the rest of us!!!
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Re: BALT2NYC [cdptrap] by gazguzler
Aug 25, 2005 (9:56 am)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Aug 25, 2005 9:01 am)

It needs to be qualified that if T had made this on the 4cyl and/or configured consumption over performance, mid 30s would be the rule for everyone without trying. Furthermore, even as is, if they had a P&G cruise control with an upper and lower speed limit and preference for electric motor instead of gasoline engine, we'd all be happy.
 
I just got 32.4 from Delaware beach to Baltimore (100+ miles) last night. This time with hyper inflated tires. But again, when there was a truck bearing down on me or a slow coach to zip by, I'd abandon and slurped gas down. I’d say I was trying 75% of the time. I’m sure that you could get 45 if this was your only aim and never accelerated or felt peer pressure from other drivers.
 
As for my strategy, I'm really just trying to keep the motor(s for 4WDi) going as long as possible. The combo engine/motor's fine, too, you can see that it's still getting in the 40s. When it's all engine then I rev up and get to a fast cruising speed and let go again. I don’t waste much time trying to stay neutral between the two arrows as it’s hard and I don’t mind if I’m recharging or using the motor to keep the speed going.
 
I’ve notice that a slow acceleration doesn’t use any motor - only engine. But if you do a moderate acceleration the motor(s) help the engine and (I assume) that helps consumption.
 
I P&Ged between 70-60 and other times 60-50.
 
What really helped me both times was traffic (this time at the bridge). I glided through it, anticipating goes and slows from the traffic ahead. I must've done 5 miles exclusively on motor (and the bridge is quite an incline (for tankers to pass beneath). Of course, coming down was easy. Both times that seemed to make up for the non-disciplined accelerations I did.
 
I want to get back in my old 4Runner and see if P&G works with engine-only vehicles. I used to save quite a bit of gas by having a kill switch and having it in neutral for any downhill or stop light, for that matter. Now I’m wondering if speeding up and then gliding without engine would do the same even if there’s no electric motor?
 
One thing I know is that the HH rolls with far less resistance than the 4. My goodness you can push the HH around with a finger on the flats and you have to heave your shoulder into the 4 to get it even moving even on a downhill.
 
It’d be fun to have a tortoise and hare race with hybrids where it’s based on distance.
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Re: BALT2NYC [gazguzler] by cdptrap
Aug 25, 2005 (7:26 pm)
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Replying to: gazguzler (Aug 25, 2005 9:56 am)

Thanks for the informative post.
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Re: BALT2NYC [cdptrap] by gazguzler
Aug 26, 2005 (4:05 am)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Aug 25, 2005 7:26 pm)

I should add that in the beginning I got some really disapointing numbers. I think the car wears in a little and you learn to drive more in tune with the electric. Short runs are the killer though. You'll never get good mileage on a short run from a cold start . . . untill you adapt to plug in.
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Re: BALT2NYC [ulev] by cdptrap
Aug 26, 2005 (9:09 am)
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Ulev,
 
You certainly have to decide for yourself whether 22 vs 26 is worth the money.
 
As for calling reports of >30MPG "BS", that word choice is unfortunate. Observing etiquette rules of this forum, it would have been better to use "...exaggerated...".
 
Most, if not all, of HH owners posting here, I believe, are not interested in huffing and puffing about our cars. If it has "warts", you will likely see us talk about it here. We are just interest in learning and sharing driving tricks so all of us can eeek out that extra 1 MPG. "BS" or not, only we will know, personally, I won't bother trying to convince non-owners.
 
Those of us (my family included) who have reached the 28-30 MPG mark know what this car can do and wish Toyota could have done more to let us push it up into 35-40 MPG. May be the next version.
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Re: BALT2NYC [cdptrap] by ulev
Aug 27, 2005 (7:17 am)
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Replying to: cdptrap (Aug 26, 2005 9:09 am)

You are correct !!
I deserve to be corrected.
 
I am guilty of 'over exuberance' in my characterization, not of individuals but of statistics. What is that saying we all learned in college? "statistics don't lie only..."
I leave it to the collective imagination to finish the sentence.
Also, if you kindly notice the '>' included in my post, which of course means 'greater than ' it delineates the statistical population I was referring too.
Perspective is yet another consideration, if you previously drove a Tahoe with 10 mpg/tank then you are HAPPY with getting 2.6 times your previous mileage with the Avg. 26 mpg of the HH...if you are a previous Toyota Truck owner like myself, a 0.846 times previous mileage result is less than satisfactory.
 
The vehicle is 'well built' I cannot argue that point, and drives like a tank, as well as havingnumerous safety features, having survived a 'headon' accident several years ago, if it saves your life, it is priceless.
 
However as you have mentioned, there are 'warts' and one of them is the heralded gas economy, which when compared to 'older' models kinda makes you wonder..
 
It is not so much 'revisionism' as it is 'realism'.

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