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computer problems by coop3
Dec 31, 2005 (12:26 pm)
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My vsc, vsc off and abs lights all came on. Took to dealership. Their diagnostic scanner could not read our Avalons computer...they say we need a new computer in our car...$1800.00. We're getting a 2nd opinion at local electrical place in town. We have a 2000 Avalon with all the whistles and bells. I'm regretting this purchase! Also, my remote keyless key doesn't work!
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Re: computer problems [coop3] by abfisch
Jan 03, 2006 (6:02 am)
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Replying to: coop3 (Dec 31, 2005 12:26 pm)

coop3:
 
Taking it to a independent who knows Toyota is a great idea. They may be able to fix it for much less. I know you probably know this now, but buying (not leasing) a first year model, no matter what the brand, with all the bells and whistles is not a good idea, statistically. Even more so if the car is not garaged.
 
I own an 02 Avalon XL, and an 04 BMW 325ci, both of which I got the least amount of electronic features I could stand, and both are garaged. Both are not first or second model years although the BMW year has been problematic, I have had no problems to date. Sure I will but not now.
 
I hope you have good luck othewise, it is a fine car.
 
abfisch
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Re: computer problems [coop3] by avalon2000
Jan 12, 2006 (12:02 am)
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Replying to: coop3 (Dec 31, 2005 12:26 pm)

Yup, have had same problem with my 2000 Avalon XLS for years, all serviced at Toyota dealer only, though vehicle always under warranty, incl. Toyota Platinum no deductible 100k miles/7yr extended, but I ALWAYS had to pay $:
 
6/11/03 52,567 miles
bad charcoal canister VSV, total cost incl labor to repair $152.11
 
10/16/03 56,694 miles
clean sensor, reinstall clear code, total cost incl labor to repair $130.50
 
6/24/04 60,252 miles
same as above, total cost incl. labor $43.50 [they say they gave me a break]
 
1/11/06 77,807 miles
same as above, in the Toyota shop tonight, I assume will cost me $120 or so [wife left gas cap loose].
 
Bought this car for cash, took delivery 12/24/99. Major problems:
 
above VSC [will be about $470 out of my own pocket]
sticking right rear brake caliper [$700 under warranty]
new radio/CD player [$650 under warranty]
new front ball joints [$500 under warranty]
new computer [$2,000 under warranty]
new struts [$800 under warranty]
four batteries
three sets of tires [finally junked crappy Michelins for excellent Goodyears]
usual change transmission, coolent, brake fluid flushes
new platinum plugs
three a/c filters
usual oil/filter changes every 3,000 miles
numerous wiper blades
new headlights
 
Conclusion:
NEVER buy an Avalon, just lease one for a max of three years!
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Re: computer problems [avalon2000] by abfisch
Jan 12, 2006 (5:23 am)
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Replying to: avalon2000 (Jan 12, 2006 12:02 am)

Avalon 2000:
 
Couple of deserving comments here. I have a 02 Avalon now with 77K on it. And yes, I have had issues some of them similar to yours, but not nearly as exhautive. As mentioned numerous times in this forum, the 00-04 Avalon brakes especially the rear discs, are an inexpensive/inferior design and the calipers freeze up quite easily, espeically when exposed to cold weather extremes. Without looking and expecting the brakes for wear and function, this overloads the fronts and there you go. The VSC, mostly on the XLS never gives me headaches since I didn't have it, and replaced my inferior struts with a set of premium struts, allowing increased stability NON electronic, with better emergency braking and avoidance, about $700 with the alignment, more expensive than your $470 repair alone but you had to replace the struts anyway. Premium struts are guaranteed for the lifetime of the original owner, not the labor I may add.
 
Again, buying a first year model, especially ladened with excessive electronic gizmos, statistically was not a manuever that should be practiced when automobile shopping. Waiting to the third year of that models provides to be much more a conservative, but less aggrevating move. Those that emotionally reserve are usually rewarded. I really am not impressed with the adage, but this is a Toyota or Honda. All you have to do is read the very interesting other forums, even a car like the Honda Civic and Accord and look at the new model year reliability records. Front brake problems abound as well as other electronic issues. Your year Avalon had a number of seal problems I believe with water leakage, not found in later models. Believe it or not, mine had a bad innner not outer CV joint, which I had to diagnosis myself sinc ethe dealership nor the corporation did not have the acutely to diagnosis it properly.
 
In any event, my 02 runs better now, at 78K that it ever did before, albeit very aggrevating iin the first two years and this was the thrid model yeear. I am going to see if I can get it to 300K, as my last car, Civic 90 I got to 236K.
 
Time will tell. I still enjoy this car, and I do have a 04 325ci BMW as well, but this one is way move comfortable as a daily driver that also tows.
 
abfisch
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Re: computer problems [avalon2000] update by avalon2000
Jan 12, 2006 (9:46 am)
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Replying to: avalon2000 (Jan 12, 2006 12:02 am)

Well, got a call from my Toyota dealer this AM. Will cost me $605, incl. tax, to repair the VSC/Check Engine light problem re replacing canister again, valve, et al. They said that all were contaminated with gas due to a fuel overfill. But the definition of overfill should be, to any reasonable person, when the gas escapes the in-fuel pipe of the vehicle and spills all over. Merely filling a tank up until the pump clicks and then having this problem, and/or when the gas cap is not tight appears to be a significant vehicle defect wherein all repair should be paid for by Toyota, at least under warranty and extended bumper-to-bumper warranty which I have.
 
I presume that such problem has been eliminated on new/subsequent year Avalons, and merely doing so reveals such defect to begin with. Saying that, I presume it would cost Toyota a $million+ to refund such VSC repair costs to consumers, easily instituted with a mass mailing to registered owners. I'll be first on line . . . "Ya owe me $957 in total!"]
 
Best brand new car I ever owned . . . 1962, 1967, 1968, 1974 Cadillacs! Hum . . . time to visit GM once again!
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1996 Avalon 3.0 liter automatic 4 wheel abs by denise4525
Feb 08, 2006 (7:32 am)
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1996 Toyota Avalon, 3.0 liter, automatic, 4 wheel abs.
 
Having problem with ABS coming on at slow speeds when applying brakes. Have replaced 3 out of 4 wheel speed sensors. No codes in memory. Checked remaining speed sensor with lab scope - has good pattern. Also, a slight buzz noise from front of vehicle every time you hit the brake when coming to a stop, this noise only last a second or 2.
Please help.
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2006 Avalon brake roar in rain. by champion3
Feb 25, 2006 (3:38 pm)
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2006 Avalon 2800 miles noticed today while driving in the rain for the first time that when the brakes where applied had a roaring noise from the front brakes. It sounded alot like wore out pads rubbing the rotors but i know thats not it. Doesn't do it in dry conditions, could be caused by the abs system but not sure. Has anyone noticed this on their o6 avalon?
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Re: 2006 Avalon brake roar in rain. [champion3] by peterpan
Mar 04, 2006 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: champion3 (Feb 25, 2006 3:38 pm)

Did it feel like something was hammering the front axle under the car?
 
If that was it, it was the ABS hammering the brakes with modulation to prevent the tires from skidding while the brakes are applied. It should happen only on wet road. If your tires are bald then it could happen on dry road during hard braking.
 
That's proof that the ABS is working in your car.

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