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#118 of 151 Re: brake failure switch [tomit] by steve326a Dec 30, 2006 (4:05 pm)
Replying to: tomit (Dec 30, 2006 3:21 pm) I concur. Change all your lights in rear and problem will be solved guaranteed.   Thanks, Steve 97 XLS w/ all the toys! Enjoy & Long Live The Avalon!
#119 of 151 cannot release the handle from P position by memechanic Jan 17, 2007 (9:09 pm)
I can step on the brake but cannot release the handle from P position. Also, no brake lights come on. I checked all the bulbs but they are OK (!?) Anyone would know what could cause such problem? Avalon 97 XL. Thanks, gp Replies to this message: steve326a (Jan 18, 2007 6:32 am)
#120 of 151 Re: cannot release the handle from P position [memechanic] by steve326a Jan 18, 2007 (6:32 am)
Replying to: memechanic (Jan 17, 2007 9:09 pm) What gives it away is your inability to shift out of park. Check your fuse box for a blown fuse that covers brake lights. Also check the brake pedal switch for your brake lights. The shift release works off the brake lights. One last thing, check the shift lever position switch. If you ever notice, the release lever doesn't activate while not in park. If the switch doesn't sense park, it won't release either. There is an emergency shift release you can use if you need to for the time being.   Steve ** 97 XLS w/ All The Toys! ** ** My Baby! ** ** Enjoy & Long Live Your Avalon! **
#121 of 151 2003 Toyota Avalon XL by scgrnmom Jul 14, 2007 (9:13 pm)
I bought my Avalon new in Feb 03. I have 63,200 miles and my car is shimmying when I brake. I just bought 4 new tires (not Michelins). I've had the car back to the tire dealer 3 times. Vibrated when on Interstate. 2nd time back they did a wheel alighment & rebalance. 3rd time they tell me that it's my rotors. They are very bright (I think on the back). I replaced rotors & pads (used ceremic pads) in Oct,05 with less than 40,000 miles. I checked with the dealer & asked how long do brakes last? Could be 60,000 but said it was probably MY driving. In June of 06 (47,346 miles)I had similar problems & was told it was my rotors again. I left my car in GA with my daughter while I was away & she took it to a Toyota dealer & they turned the rotors at a cost of $99 each. I've had my tires rotated, several wheel alighments & here I am again, in July 07 & dealing with the same thing. When I look at the rotors, one of them on the front is very rusty. Last visit to the Tire dealer said that the caliphers may be sticking & would need to investigate that. I have a private extended warranty & the brakes (pads & rotors) aren't covered, but the caliphers are. I am getting tired of this routine. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 15, 2007 7:45 am) scgrnmom (Jul 18, 2007 7:11 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 2:45 pm) and 2 more... mcclearyfl (Jul 21, 2007 6:08 am)
#122 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [scgrnmom] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 15, 2007 (7:45 am)
Replying to: scgrnmom (Jul 14, 2007 9:13 pm) The dealer could easily check for sticking calipers by using a type of thermometer that can measure rotor temperature. It is true that overheated rotors will warp. It is also true that cheap rotors will warp, or rotors that are under-engineered for the weight of the car.   One possible and final solution for you...presuming your calipers are checked and NOT sticking (again, by testing the temperature after the car has been driven)...is to install a higher quality aftermarket rotor. Certainly many people have successfully beaten the "rotor dance" by doing this.   I don't think turning your old rotors was a good idea as it creates a kind of vicious circle...by cutting the rotors they have less mass and with less mass they can heat up even faster, thereby warping faster, etc   Visiting Host Replies to this message: scgrnmom (Jul 18, 2007 7:11 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 2:45 pm) scgrnmom (Jul 20, 2007 5:21 pm) and 1 more...
#123 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [Mr_Shiftright] by scgrnmom Jul 18, 2007 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 15, 2007 7:45 am) The old rotors were turned with only about 10,000 miles on them. My daughter took my car to the Toyota dealer while I was away on a trip.   I've been asking others about the brakes. I used blue ceremic pads when I put new pads & new rotors on. They were supposed to be the best. A friend says they cut into the rotors more & perhaps a softer pad would help.   We checked the rotors for wear & they do not all look alike. One looks more worn than the other 3. Haven't taken it to the shop yet to check the calipers. Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 2:45 pm) scgrnmom (Jul 20, 2007 5:21 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 5:26 pm)
#124 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [scgrnmom] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 20, 2007 (2:45 pm)
Replying to: scgrnmom (Jul 18, 2007 7:11 pm) Well that's quite suspicious...perhaps the rotor is not moving properly on its slide (if that's the type your car uses---can't recall)...but pads should wear the same.   Yes you're right, some pads are "very good" but hard on rotors. Replies to this message: scgrnmom (Jul 20, 2007 5:21 pm) Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 5:26 pm)
#125 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [Mr_Shiftright] by scgrnmom Jul 20, 2007 (5:21 pm)
Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 2:45 pm) I went in this morning for an oil change. The mechanic looked at the rotors & said they all looked the same to him. (I didn't think so) Anyway, they are the ones with the holes in them that would help them keep from overheating. The guy said he didn't think the caliphers were sticking, but I want a second opinion. The Parts place I bought the rotors said they are the best & so were the pads and she said she suspected the caliphers.   If I have to buy new rotors, should I buy new pads too?   I have to make a trip to Virginia in two weeks. The Toyoto Dealer I bought the car from is up there. Would it be safe to drive that far & look into getting the work done there? Replies to this message: Mr_Shiftright (Jul 20, 2007 5:26 pm)
#126 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [scgrnmom] by Mr_Shiftright HOST Jul 20, 2007 (5:26 pm)
Replying to: scgrnmom (Jul 20, 2007 5:21 pm) Well drilled rotors might have chewed up your pads. Don't use drilled rotors!!! Get a good quality stock rotor and a pad like Performance Friction brand or some such.
#127 of 151 Re: 2003 Toyota Avalon XL [scgrnmom] by mcclearyfl Jul 21, 2007 (6:08 am)
Replying to: scgrnmom (Jul 14, 2007 9:13 pm) There have been many posts regarding the problems associated with overtightening the wheel lug nuts, invariably resulting in a heavy pulsation normally associated with warped disks or sticking calipers.   I have just replaced the tires on my 55K 2003 Avalon XLS, and the pulsation was immediately obvious. The lugs on all four wheels were greatly overtorqued, and required considerable effort with a long lugnut rod to loosen them. I tightened them to a little more than finger tight, and drove round the block a couple of times. I then retightened them, taking great care to perform this operation very evenly and carefully, spreading the pressure across the whole wheel. I applied sufficient torque that I could easily loosen the nuts with the small wrench that comes as standard equipment.   The excessive pulsation has gone. There is a very slight vibration that I consider normal for an Avalon that has never had a brake service, though my 2002 Saab (which has a much better disk system) is a smooth as the day I bought it.   So check those wheel lug nuts !!

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