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#4891 of 4940 Re: my wife is in ohio [baggs32] by thegraduate Apr 06, 2008 (7:03 pm)
Replying to: baggs32 (Apr 06, 2008 5:26 pm) Thanks, I had always assumed that the Escape had an automatic system. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Apr 07, 2008 8:46 am) baggs32 (Apr 07, 2008 8:58 am)
#4892 of 4940 Re: my wife is in ohio [thegraduate] by ateixeira Apr 07, 2008 (8:46 am)
Replying to: thegraduate (Apr 06, 2008 7:03 pm) I think it's both, i.e. automatic engagement when there is slip, plus the ability to manually turn on 4WD on slippery surfaces only. Replies to this message: baggs32 (Apr 07, 2008 8:58 am)
#4893 of 4940 Re: my wife is in ohio [ateixeira] by baggs32 Apr 07, 2008 (8:58 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 07, 2008 8:46 am) I think it's both, i.e. automatic engagement when there is slip, plus the ability to manually turn on 4WD on slippery surfaces only.   It only had both from 2001-2004. It is now fully automatic and fully electronic. Very much like the Haldex system but this one was developed by Ford IIRC. Like the Fusion, Taurus, and whatever other vehicles use it, it is said to be able to detect when wheel spin might occur and compensate for it by sending power where it is needed making the whole process invisible and seamless. My experience with the first gen version in our '05 Escape is that it did work very much like that but you could still feel the front tires slip ever so slightly from time to time in the soft stuff. Chirping the tires was all but impossible though. I guess the sensors which predict when wheel spin is imminent are programmed to work better on dry pavement.
#4894 of 4940 Update by scape2 Apr 15, 2008 (6:49 pm)
Well, I used to be in this room quite often when I owned my 2001Ford Escape XLT V6. Wife liked this vehicle so much in 2004 we bought a Mazda Tribute V6 loaded too! I used to go round and round with the Honda CRV owners and Toyota owners about how they would tell me my Ford Escape was going to break down anyday. After using the Escape as a real SUV, towing my two water craft, visiting my favorite fishing spots in the Cascade range and 70,000 miles the Escape ran like a champ! No my wifes Tribute has hit just over 50,000 miles with no problems! These are very reliable vehicles by Ford/Mazda. In the next 2 years wife and I are talking about a Hybrid Escape or Tribute. Replies to this message: thegraduate (Apr 15, 2008 6:58 pm) scape2 (Apr 21, 2008 3:23 pm) thegraduate (Apr 21, 2008 9:46 pm) and 7 more... ateixeira (Apr 16, 2008 1:05 pm) done37 (Apr 16, 2008 1:42 pm) ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:35 am) and 2 more...
#4895 of 4940 Re: Update [scape2] by thegraduate Apr 15, 2008 (6:58 pm)
Replying to: scape2 (Apr 15, 2008 6:49 pm) I used to go round and round with the Honda CRV owners and Toyota owners about how they would tell me my Ford Escape was going to break down anyday.   C'mon scape, you were the only one who constantly repeated that, not the other posters. I'm glad you had good short-term service out of your Escape; I've been urging my folks to check out the new Ford Taurus (they want a comfortable highway cruiser to supplant their economical Civic), so I'm not anti-Ford! Replies to this message: scape2 (Apr 21, 2008 3:23 pm) thegraduate (Apr 21, 2008 9:46 pm) smudgejet (Jul 15, 2008 11:09 am) and 6 more...
#4896 of 4940 Re: Update [scape2] by ateixeira Apr 16, 2008 (1:05 pm)
Replying to: scape2 (Apr 15, 2008 6:49 pm) Good luck finding one, Escape hybrids are in very high demand right now. NYC uses them as cabs. Replies to this message: done37 (Apr 16, 2008 1:42 pm) ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:35 am) done37 (Apr 17, 2008 10:27 am) and 1 more...
#4897 of 4940 Re: Update [ateixeira] by done37 Apr 16, 2008 (1:42 pm)
Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 16, 2008 1:05 pm) Even in my little Podunck town here in Eastern Washington they are using them for municipality vehicles. The two Ford dealers here are grinning from ear to ear. Replies to this message: ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:35 am) done37 (Apr 17, 2008 10:27 am) p0926 (Apr 19, 2008 7:39 am)
#4898 of 4940 Re: Update [done37] by ateixeira Apr 17, 2008 (9:35 am)
Replying to: done37 (Apr 16, 2008 1:42 pm) I think a Caliber or Focus would be less costly. Maybe they want to appear more green. Replies to this message: done37 (Apr 17, 2008 10:27 am) p0926 (Apr 19, 2008 7:39 am)
#4899 of 4940 Re: Update [ateixeira] by done37 Apr 17, 2008 (10:27 am)
Replying to: ateixeira (Apr 17, 2008 9:35 am) Thats true. For the most part they are meter readers, code enforcement, Etc.... I imagine they might need 4wd in some instances with surveying. Replies to this message: p0926 (Apr 19, 2008 7:39 am)
#4900 of 4940 Re: Update [done37] by p0926 Apr 19, 2008 (7:39 am)
Replying to: done37 (Apr 17, 2008 10:27 am) I seriously doubt that you're going to find an AWD Escape Hybrid in a municpal or taxi fleet. In fact I'd be surprised if total production of the AWD version reached 10%.   -Frank

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