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Toyota Camry Fuse and Electrical Questions

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Re: 96 Camry LE Power windows [wwest] by kiawah
Apr 23, 2009 (9:19 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Apr 23, 2009 7:50 am)

I've arc welded wrenches by mistake, personally....I'm not grabbing any battery terminals. It may not be high voltage, but it can delivery a LOT of amps.
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [kiawah] by alphawolff
Apr 23, 2009 (3:22 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 22, 2009 6:59 pm)

You are a wealth of knowledge. When you said "it's on the left", I hope you meant the passenger side. I just got it out. You really need to be a double jointed ambidextrous midget to get down there but I did get the one on the passenger side out. I hope this is it. I plan to bench test it now.
 
By the way, the door locks are working
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [alphawolff] by kiawah
Apr 23, 2009 (4:22 pm)
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Replying to: alphawolff (Apr 23, 2009 3:22 pm)

Yes, the passenger side
 
Great, you are going to test it. Let me give you the info.
 
The pins are arranged in a T configuration, T rotated 90 degrees counter-clockwise from how it normally prints, which is how you took it out of the socket.
 
Pin 1 is the + of the primary coil, which turns on the relay.
Pin 2 is the Grnd of the primary coil.
Pin 5 and 3 are the secondary points. Pin 5 is connected to the output of the 30A fuse, and Pin 3 is connected to the window switches.
 
1
## 5 ## 3
2
 
In case you don't know, when relay is engergized, there should be zero resistance from 5 to 3. When relay un-energized, should be infinite resistance 5 to 3.
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [kiawah] by alphawolff
Apr 23, 2009 (4:44 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 23, 2009 4:22 pm)

Kiawah,
 
Thanks again. The relay bench tested OK. There was zero resistance when the coil was energized. Additionally, since all 3 relays were the same, I rotated them all. Windows still don't work. As I said before the electric door locks are working, so any device that is common to both systems can be ruled out.
 
I measured the voltage on the connector to the Master window switch. There is no voltage on pins 10 or 11 on the connector which, from my interpretation of the electrical schematics provides power to the Master window door switch for the windows (the ignition was on). Any further help you can give me would be appreciated.
 
Bob
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [alphawolff] by kiawah
Apr 23, 2009 (5:28 pm)
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Replying to: alphawolff (Apr 23, 2009 4:44 pm)

Okay.
 
Since the Door locks are working, then the 25A Door fuse and 10A Gauge fuse are undoubtedly okay. At this point, i would suspect the integration relay is bad. But verify that your door courtesy switches (Front Left door, front right door) are working.
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [kiawah] by alphawolff
Apr 23, 2009 (5:31 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 23, 2009 4:22 pm)

Kiawah,
 
One more thing. Although I tested all the fuses before I went back to double checkthe three specific ones you mentioned. I clearly found 2 of them and they tested OK. The only one I am a little unsure of is the 30 A power fuse you spoke of. I only found one 30 A fuse in the whole car, in the drivers side fuse box in the engine compartment. It wasn't clearly labelled but it tested OK.
 
However, my schematic (from a chiltons manual for this car) represents this device with a unique symbol. Could this be a circuit breaker? If so where is it located? If not is the 30 A fuse you referred to in the drivers side fuse box in the engine compartment?
 
Thanks again for all the free advice.
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [kiawah] by alphawolff
Apr 23, 2009 (5:34 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 23, 2009 5:28 pm)

The dome light illuminates when the doors are opened if the dome light switch is set to the proper position
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [alphawolff] by kiawah
Apr 23, 2009 (5:39 pm)
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Replying to: alphawolff (Apr 23, 2009 5:31 pm)

The 30A Power fuse, is on regular fuse panel by left knee.
 
If you look at the small fuses, the right most column has a 7.5 A Turn, a 7.5A Rad#2, and a 15A Cig small fuse. Continuing down in that same vertical column, is a 40A Defroster fuse, the 30A power fuse, and then the 40A AM1 fuse.
 
Check that big middle 30A fuse.
 
  Free....who said anything about being free?
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [kiawah] by alphawolff
Apr 23, 2009 (6:01 pm)
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Replying to: kiawah (Apr 23, 2009 5:39 pm)

That was it. I feel stupid for not recognizing it as a fuse to begin with. It looked more like a small relay. It is blown.
 
I would be happy to send you a gift certificate for dinner somewhere. You were a great help.
 
More importantly I am in great need of a competent honest mechanic. You seem to be both. I see you are from raleigh and I happen to live here too. I would very much like to know where you work so I can frequent your place of business.
 
I am a former electricians helper, biomed tech and now a Electrical Engineer with a PE license. Although as you know, all that can't replace practical experience. If you need a reference let me know.
 
Email me at alphawolffhotmail.com
 
Thanks again
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Re: No Windows Work 98 Camry [alphawolff] by kiawah
Apr 23, 2009 (6:53 pm)
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Replying to: alphawolff (Apr 23, 2009 6:01 pm)

Sorry, not a mechanic. EE as well. Just many practical years of maintaining our own 'fleet'.
 
Appreciate the offer for certficate, but take your better half/significant_other/kids out to dinner instead.
 
Glad you found it, and it worked out to be a simple fix.

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