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brakes fail on 2007 Camry by robertbanks
Aug 16, 2007 (11:39 am)
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On 4 occasions the brakes seem to fail. When the brakes are applied there is no pressure in the pedal and it goes all the way to the flood. Pumping them does not help, the pedal just goes right to the floor without slowing or stopping the car. Always while traveling at lower speeds. Took it to the dealer as well as Firestone and other than 1 occasion where the brake fluid level was low, they could not find anything wrong.
 
Has ANYONE had or heard of this problem?
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [robertbanks] by kiawah
Aug 16, 2007 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: robertbanks (Aug 16, 2007 11:39 am)

I'd say it had to be the brake master cylinder.
 
If the caliper's were sticking and not squeezing, you'd have a hard pedal with no braking.
 
If the calipers or any of the lines had a leak, you'd have no brake pedal (like you had), but you'd be way low on brake fluid and there would be brake fluid all over something or dripping on the ground where you park.
 
So I think the only thing left is the master cylinder, which when depressed is not pushing the fluid out. Why it only happens at low speed, is beyond me.
 
If it was me, I'd make sure you knew how to stop with the parking brake in an emergency. Unfortunately, the 2007 is a locking one without a hand release....so that will make it extremely difficult to use as an "emergency" brake. You'll probably end up locking up the rears. Take it out in a clear parking lot and try what you'd have to do if your brakes failed again. (This made me think that I need to do the same).
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [robertbanks] by Mr_Shiftright HOST
Aug 16, 2007 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: robertbanks (Aug 16, 2007 11:39 am)

i agree with kiawah, it can only be the master cylinder---probably an internal defect. Very freaky that BOTH circuits in the master would fail. I am staggered, shocked and amazed that the dealer would not swap out that master cylinder pronto, given the safety issues here.
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [robertbanks] by 650spx
Aug 16, 2007 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: robertbanks (Aug 16, 2007 11:39 am)

I have seen a few times the master cylinder leak into the brake booster. The master cylinder has to be removed to check.
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [650spx] by teamtbo
Aug 17, 2007 (3:43 pm)
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Replying to: 650spx (Aug 16, 2007 3:25 pm)

robert, wow, you are much more patient then me. If my brakes completely failed, I would drop of the car that same day at the dealer and demand my money back or a new car. I mean this is the most dangerous thing that can happen - you could have been killed or killed someone else! I guess the only hard part is reproducing the failure to prove to the dealer that it really happened and you just didn't get a bad case of buyers remorse.
 
My wife and I bought a used 4 Runner several months ago and it had the front brakes replaced. Turns out the mechanic forgot to bolt the calipers on...so several miles away from the used car dealership, the ABS locked up as we approached a 4 way stop. It freaked my wife and I out big time! Anyway, we demanded a refund because I knew every time we put the brakes on after that, we would be worrying about the same thing happening. Good luck!
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [robertbanks] by geffen
Aug 18, 2007 (2:59 pm)
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Replying to: robertbanks (Aug 16, 2007 11:39 am)

I would've taken the 07 Camry back to the dealership where you purchased it at the first failure in the brakes, this should be covered under warranty, most Camry's ive test driven had spongy brakes and thats what steered me clear of Camrys even though I wanted one I surely did not want to take a chance at getting into a fatal accident.
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Re: brakes fail on 2007 Camry [geffen] by teamtbo
Aug 18, 2007 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: geffen (Aug 18, 2007 2:59 pm)

geffen, yes, my Camry has spongy brakes as well...that is a great way to describe them. We brought it to the dealership a couple of days ago to have them checked out, but they said the usual "can't find anything wrong with them". The other major issue we are having is the shift flare has come back after we had the tranny replaced. I am working with my dealership now to trade in the Camry for a 2007 Highlander. I never thought I would be trading in my brand new Camry with only 3700 miles!
 
By the way, we test drove a 2007 Highlander SR5 on Thursday and the brakes were very responsive. I told my wife, "see, this is how they are supposed to be." Now she knows why I complained about our Camry's brakes. Glad to know that my Camry isn't the only one with spongy brakes.
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spongy brakes by acco20
Aug 19, 2007 (9:07 am)
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I do not understand "spongy". I touch the brake pedal and the car slows down with very little pressure. I have had to make a more sudden stop only once or twice, and all times the brakes brought the car to a perfect stop.Are you refering to this light touch braking? If not, what do you mean by spongy.
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Re: spongy brakes [acco20] by bdyment
Aug 19, 2007 (9:29 am)
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Replying to: acco20 (Aug 19, 2007 9:07 am)

The pedal will feel mushy instead of firm.
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Re: spongy brakes [bdyment] by acco20
Aug 19, 2007 (12:36 pm)
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Replying to: bdyment (Aug 19, 2007 9:29 am)

A firm feel,meaning additional pressure would be needed to bring the car to a stop. I understand what you mean, I just don't see the advantage.OH well.....to each his own. I really like the Camry brakes just as they are.

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