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#13 of 109 Transmission Noise
Apr 04, 2006 (6:17 am)
Recently bought a 96 Buick Regal with 30,000 original miles which was driven by a 83 year old gentleman. The car was garaged and looks like its only 1 year old!!! It was dealer maintained with oil changes every 3000 miles etc.. all receipts with milage and servicing. I did notice a slight intermitten noise when I drove the car home. The next day I started the Regal and the transmission fluid was down 4 quarts and the little noise sounded like a bucket of bolts rattling around. I filled the fluid per procedures and the noise subsided, then drove it 30 miles and dropped the tranny pan and changed filter with new synthetic trans fluid (Dextron III equiv). One small aluminum particle in pan. The car does not have any leaks!!!!
Thought I solved the problem when the tranny shifted and ran quietly for 50 miles. However the noise comes and goes and now shudders slightly when I start out from a stop, then shifts okay.
Right now the car is quiet and shifts smoothly. However I know that the noise and jerking will come back. Anyone got any ideas?? suggestions.
Did take it to a transmission shop and the mechanic said it will need a total rebuild at a cost of around $2000!!! HELP!!!! A GOOD DEAL GONE BAD?????
#14 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [berniez]
Apr 04, 2006 (6:31 am)
The real question is: why was the transmission fluid down 4 quarts on a car with only 30,000 miles? Therein lies the problem.
#15 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [tsu670]
Apr 04, 2006 (9:20 am)
This Buick is a 1996. My guess is that the transmission fluid level was never checked during servicing, and gradually over 10 years the fluid evaporated??? The previous, 83 year old owner had the car serviced about once per year.
Since I have changed the fluid and filter,250 miles ago, the fluid level remains full with no leaks..
Someone recommended that I try some LUCAS TRANSMISSION ADDITIVE.
#16 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [berniez]
Apr 04, 2006 (10:16 am)
You've done the right things. Just drive it reasonably and watch and see. It may be the trans just was leaking oil? Unless there was still a vacuum modulator on that era transmission which might be allowing trans fluid to be sucked into the motor.
As for the overhaul--I was told my 98 LeSAbre transmission was junk, all GMs are, and would cost 1800 or up to repair. He wouldn't know until he took it apart. Needless to say I got second opinion and 60K miles later we're doing fine without his repair. He must have needed a boat or summer home payment the day I went in for professional opinion!
I would just keep asking if it continues to use trans fluid. Maybe it just didn't get exercised enough.
I think all trans shops say a trans will need a rebuild even if it's not got a real problem.
#17 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [imidazol97]
Apr 05, 2006 (6:00 am)
I'm hoping I don't need a transmission rebuild. Your reference to a vacuum modulator being on this transmission may be correct. I picked up a GM transmission repair book by Haynes and it shows a 4T60 transmission that has a vacuum modulator. However, the 1996 transmission is designated as a 4T60E.. It may, or may not have the modulator, but I will check that out if the tranny fluid level drops.
Before agreeing to a new/used/rebuilt transmission, I plan to add a transmission additive (LUCAS) and drive it for 100 miles plus if possible, and then drop the pan and change filter and fluid again. This time I will crack open the tranny filter and examine for any metal particles.
The transmission repair shop asked me if I saved the filter after my first draining/refill and filter change. Unfortunately it went out in the trash. Repair people normally crack open the filter of problem transmissions and any debris/metal can help in diagnosing a problem.
Anyway, rebuilt transmissions range in price from $1250 to $1850 and that doesn't include core charge. Installation is extra.
#18 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [imidazol97]
Apr 10, 2006 (5:41 pm)
Thanks for the advice. My 96 regal has a vacuum modulator and it was bad.
According to the repair manual you check the vacuum modulator by removing it, then, you look to see if any fluid comes out of the vacuum connection, if yes, it's defective. Then you do a vaccum test to see if the VM will stay extended when vaccum is applied with a pump. My VM leaked transmission fluid and nothing happened when I applied some vacuum.. It was totally shot.
I guess that's were the 4 quarts of transmission fluid went. Anyway, this Buick Regal is shifting smoothly, no stumbling/shudder and the noise is gone!!!!!! I'm really very happy that I don't need a transmission rebuild for $2000, which was what the transmission repair shop said was needed..
I guess my experience mirrors yours, now, if I can get 60,000 miles out of the car I'll really be doing great...
This car is turning out to be a good deal after all!!!
#19 of 109 Chrome wheels peeling
Apr 12, 2006 (10:54 pm)
The inside of all 4 chrome wheels on my wife's 2000 GSE are peeling off. As the wheels turn, the flakes are scraping the struts, making a terrible noise. I took it to the dealer, but he said it eventually happens to all wheels because of the plating process. It's not covered under our extended warranty. Needless to say, my wife's upset. Has this happened to anyone else? The dealer wants to charge us for labor to cut off the peeled chrome. We'd like to write a letter to someone at GM about this, but don't know where to write. We live in a northern suburb of Chicago.
#20 of 109 Re: Transmission Noise [berniez]
Apr 13, 2006 (5:46 pm)
Trans changed how they control the shifts and pressures so some don't have the vacuum modulator.
Apr 04, 2006 (12:46 pm)
My truck was given to me by my grandad when he passed at 83. Its a 1979 and had set and been allowed to run down. The transmission fluid down 4 quarts does not suprise me. My grandad still drove it and it was in good condition when he was 82 but when his health failed him, in the course of a year, the waterpump went bum, the clutch needed replacing, the hoses were worn off the spark plugs needed replacing. Cars run down when they are garaged for long periods of time. It did with my Chevy so I'm not suprised it happened with your Buick.
Stick with the General...He want let ya down
#22 of 109 Re: Same here... [79customd]
Apr 05, 2006 (6:27 am)
The 83 year old that drove this 96 Regal bought a new LaCrosse and the 96 sat unused for 6 months at his son-in-law's house until I bought it last week.
The hoses, plug wires and everything under the hood looks like brand new. However, the water pump did have a leak and was replaced at 27,000 miles by the dealer along with the serpentine belt, battery plus oil change to the total cost of $722...
The last servicing on this car was a dealer oil change and 19 point inspection at 28,962 miles on 4/26/05. Cost $27.
No mention of low transmission fluid.
I did call the 83 year old that sold me the car and he was surprised that the tranny was down 4 quarts and that I was having a transmission problem.
I told him to make sure the dealer checks the tranny fluid in his new LaCrosse because my guess is that the dealer service department never checked it on this 96 in 10 years!!!! Can't lose 4 quarts in 1,030 miles when there are no visible oil leaks under the engine. At least I don't think so..
Previous owner had all records, receipts and was meticulous with the care of this automobile. Unfortunately the transmission may have to be rebuilt.