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#125 of 260 Re: 1997 toyota camry timing belt [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 29, 2008 (9:25 am)
hey there, thank you for your reply, yes it has oil in it and she just said she was driving it and the engine suddenly quit so she coasted to the next stop, i will be looking at this car tomorrow and i will definately try to turn it with out the starter, something to mention is that when i pulled the starter out i had my sister turn the key and the starter performed flawlesly, well i put the starter back in and had her try it this time and nothing happened, let me point that you can actually see the starter move a hair while is cycling and it looks like it wants to jump out of that hole cause is under such strain, i cannot understand what could make an engine lock like that, the day when it happen it was sunny and it was on a mild hill so i believe there was no puddles but i will ask her,the reason i stated the timing belt was because i figure that if the belt brakes and the valves fall and the piston comes up and hits one real good and bends it and that valve cannot return to its original positon it could stop the travel of the piston,hence the locking feeling, could this be possible or not? again thank you for your input , let me know what else you think it might be
#126 of 260 Re: 1997 toyota camry timing belt [dntlss]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 29, 2008 (9:33 am)
If the belt brakes the valves are no longer connected to the pistons through the camshaft, so the bottom crankshaft should spin freely even if the valves were jammed tight or the camshaft was seized.
You may need to get a socket and cheater bar on the front crankshaft pulley to see if this engine is actually seized.
Aside from oil starvation, hydro-lock or a jammed timing chain tensioner (which you don't have) I can't think right off of any other reason for an engine to seize while running down the road.
I suppose it could have eaten a valve but even that usually wouldn't cause seizure.
I'm just not sure you have in fact an engine seizure issue here. More investigation in that area!
#127 of 260 Re: 1997 toyota camry timing belt [dntlss]
Aug 29, 2008 (9:59 am)
Take the plugs out, when you are trying to turn the engine over with a cheater bar...that will make it easier to turn. Might also want to just take the accessory belt off as well, that would eliminate any frozen accessory from impacting your ability to turn the engine.
You also don't need to take the starter out, it wouldn't be engaged with the flywheel.
#128 of 260 Re: 1997 toyota camry timing belt [kiawah]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Aug 29, 2008 (10:39 am)
I was thinking it might be getting hung up when he tries to start it and it jams in the flywheel. Just groping for ideas here.
#129 of 260 Re: 1997 toyota camry timing belt [Mr_Shiftright]
Aug 29, 2008 (2:02 pm)
Wow tore right into it, starter removed, and then installed again.
Seems you could do the next step and remove plugs like the last post suggest.The symptoms like starter does not spin sounds like your on the right track Again a broken belt will let it turn over easily unless its so twisted around something at the crankshaft.You should be able to turn it backwards too, easily without cheater bar if you follow the above advice
. The plastic cover on top of the engine covering the camshaft pulley you could pryed it back to see if belt is still on the cam. Remove three of the five or six 10mm cover bolts and pry it back.
#130 of 260 camry with locked engine
Aug 29, 2008 (11:01 pm)
thanks everybody so much for all the points, i will investigate every single one tomorrow and post what i found out so far, i want to point out that i did take one of the belts off(the airconditioned one ) but there is a smaller one behind it so ill take that one out tomorrow as well, i also wanted to add that my sister boyfriend was with me and i had him get under with a socket and a ratchet and thats when we tried to move the crank, actually he even got his foot on the ratchet for leverage but no dice, didnt move an inch, hes not too bright at times so maybe he was hitting something with the ratchet, so tomorrow ill get under it, the spark plug removal is also a good idea(thank you) i forgot about that and i thought of it later, this was all last saturday so tomorrow i will work on it in earnest,i did do also what the gentleman said about removing part of the timing belt cover and i did see it and push it lightly to see if it had a lot of slack but the test was inconclusive cause it was hard to see, again i will take more of it off and check, again thanks everybody!!!!
#131 of 260 Re: camry with locked engine [dntlss]
Sep 01, 2008 (11:23 am)
If the timing belt is visible on the top it is good. If its missing it broke.
Sound like its still connected. You are the grand prize winner of whats behind door number three.
#132 of 260 Re: camry with locked engine [rearwheeldrive]
Sep 01, 2008 (12:26 pm)
lol, thank you for your mesagge, i assume door number three is the oil pan? i did take the valve cover off, thats a very interesting way they attached that cover with those big nuts, well now with all the research i have done i believe what happened was the oil pump failed and the engine seized, strange is she didnt mention any noise or nothing of that nature and the oil looks fine but we put a socket on the crankshaft and a cheater pipe,no movement what soever,ive never seen anything like it, i work on mustangs and things like that ,so looks like a new car is in the horizon for her,again thanks for your reply
#133 of 260 Re: belts [caaz]
Sep 03, 2008 (10:30 am)
Thanks for the information. I went to have my oil changed last week and I was told that my 2002 v6 cam. needed a new timing belt because it "looked" as though the cover has never been removed therefore they assumed that I needed a new timing belt. However I seem to remember being told that the timing belt had just been replaced when I bought the car(78k). Is there a way that I can check the timing belt.
Also i was told that I had an engine valve gasket that was leaking and needed to be fixed. The car now has 120k miles on it. Has anyone had this issue before.
Is anyone aware any mechanics (non-dealer) in the DC metro area that can do this at a reasonable price....
Let me know...Thanks
#134 of 260 Re: camry with locked engine [dntlss]
Sep 03, 2008 (3:01 pm)
I couldn't be the one to break the news what was behind behind door number three, now you know.
These engines are in abundants at junkyards, well maybe wait a few more years. I see alot of 93's and earlier models. The model year 2000s Kia's and Hyunda's are starting to show up.