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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [jniznik]
by jah420
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Aug 25, 2008 (12:09 pm)
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Replying to: jniznik (May 25, 2008 6:34 pm)
did you ever do the video?
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- #164 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [jah420]
by cevansjr
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Aug 26, 2008 (1:18 pm)
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Replying to: jah420 (Aug 25, 2008 12:09 pm)
I have a 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee, and WAS part of the death wobble club. I found these online forums to be very helpful in solving my problem. The Following was the solution to my problem.
1: new rotors: warped rotors caused an initial wobble that caused steering components to loosen over time.
2. Drag Link: I replaced the draglink tie-rod ends which SOLVED the PROBLEM!!! The initial wobble from my warped rotors lead to this problem worsening. I found the parts at a local pep-boys/ kragen auto and fixed the problem by my self in two hours. Total cost was around $80. Once you replace these ends, you should notice much more responsive steering, and no wobble from the front end.
3. An alignment will more than likely be necessary after replacing the tie-rod ends that connect to the drag link.
Hope this helps and please be safe while driving with the infamous DEATH WOBBLE!!
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- #165 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [jbstorm]
by cevansjr
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Aug 27, 2008 (11:04 am)
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Replying to: jbstorm (Jul 09, 2008 7:06 pm)
YO JBSTORM, try replacing the tie-rod ends that connect to the drag-link. This should eliminate the infamous wobble (at least it did for me). Also try having someone look under the front end to see what parts are loose. hope this helps!
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- #166 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [cevansjr]
by jbstorm
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Aug 27, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: cevansjr (Aug 27, 2008 11:04 am)
I have already changed the tie rods. The other item I changed in the very beginning was the master cylinder. This is where it gets very interesting. The most recent thing I did was take it to a shop I know to have the ABS system checked out. It was fine but, they said the new master cylinder was defective (A-zone part) which was leading to brake drag when the car heated up. The drag lead to occasional rotor warp on the passenger side .....and to the death wobble. I replaced the master cylinder again with a better one...and problem solved. I also replaced the calipers on this car with Akebono vs the Teves that were on it OEM. The Akebono are original on 2002 on. They are actually an upgrade per a service letter over the Teves calipers which can cause rotor warp due to unequal pressure in the caliper cylinders (2 per). I also installed cross drilled rotors just before putting the new master cylinder on. This is when the death wobble disappeared and allowed me to feel the brake drag. They were dissipating the heat from drag very quickly. The bottom line is a lot of $$$ later, and mostly my labor, I have it fixed....case closed
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- #167 of 222
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Vibration at highway speeds, 65 MPH and up.
by trnsam78
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Aug 28, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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To me, it feels like a vibration from the automatic hubs, it is a 1996 Cherokee SE 4x4, I-6, Auto tranny. I had a auto hub vibration from my old dearly departed Suburban that feels very similar to this. It's only noticable at highways speeds and thats it. My girlfriend is ready to freak out thinking the thing is about to fly apart. It's not a wobble or anything like that as it is straight as an arrow and no wierdness from the suspension. This is my first Jeep, and other then this complaint my girlfriend has, I think it's great. Anyone hear of this or know of something that actually might be causing it or is it just the nature of the beast?
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- #168 of 222
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Re: Vibration at highway speeds, 65 MPH and up. [trnsam78]
by cobra427
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Aug 28, 2008 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: trnsam78 (Aug 28, 2008 1:05 pm)
No weirdness from the girlfriend, but my girlfriend really likes the way it feels. Whatever is causing it??? all is good. Yeeha!
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- #169 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [jniznik]
by shocker1alpha
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Sep 11, 2008 (4:50 pm)
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Replying to: jniznik (May 25, 2008 6:34 pm)
Hey everyone,
I did what he said on message 144 and I still have the death wobble:( Anyone else do this and still have the problem? Any other ideas?
Tom
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- #170 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [shocker1alpha]
by acommero
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Sep 11, 2008 (7:51 pm)
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Replying to: shocker1alpha (Sep 11, 2008 4:50 pm)
If the trac bar didn't fix, the next step would be the steering stabilizer strut.
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- #171 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [jbstorm]
by pjdmiller
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Sep 27, 2008 (7:55 am)
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Replying to: jbstorm (Aug 27, 2008 11:18 am)
I read your post and have similar issue but it sounds related to your fix. My 99 GC Ltd has already had the rotors replaced due to warping and the wobble would only occur during braking and would be worst after highway driving. That was about 4 years ago. Then, in the last few years the braking wobble is getting worse. Highway driving at any speed is fine, just braking is the problem, the steering wheel will oscillate violently and the front end does the same depending on brake pressure and speed.
In the city, the wobble is not nearly a problem but it seems to come and go. The explanation in #166 of a dragging brake would seem to be a good thing to check. I will go check rotor temps after a drive using my IR gun and see if there are differences. I'm assuming I can jack up the car and see if there is any drag on a brake? Any other suggestions before changing our calipers or master cylinders a in #166? This fix has been a real help since the mechanics have only offered to replace rotors and the problem comes back. Thanks all.
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- #172 of 222
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Re: Death wobble solved woo hoo! COST: 62 cents [pjdmiller]
by jbstorm
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Sep 27, 2008 (9:48 am)
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Replying to: pjdmiller (Sep 27, 2008 7:55 am)
Your issue sounds purely like a rotor/caliper issue, not a master cylinder issue dealing with brake drag. I too replaced rotors several times on my GC without doing anything to the calipers. It was only a matter of time after replacing them that the shaking would start again. After looking into this in more depth, it turns out that the calipers are basically causing the problem. You may want to upgrade to the akebono calipers. I also upgraded to cross-drilled rotors as well. It is nice to finally push the brake pedal without experiencing some type of shaking.
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