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never mind found it! sweet bla bla bla disclaimer, voids warrant, unsafe ... ok heres the scoop: ================== I've posted my theories up on other threads but here's an official write up on my tested/working way to unlock your NAV while in motion. I spent weeks studying the wiring diagrams on both Kenwood and Subaru (If people have access to more Kenwood diagrams I'm interested in seeing them). Turns out Subaru never wired up the parking sensor to the NAV unit under the seat. I have successfully grounded that pin on the wireharness and got the NAV menues to work while driving (see attached picture for proof). You need to ground the pin on the bottom row (2nd from left). Its the only pin on the bottom row that doesn't have a wire going to it from the Subaru harness. You can check your work by going to the NAV's main menu (main menu->Nav setup->Nav info->Vehicle Signal). If parking brake say's ON, then you have successfully grounded the correct pin. My picture shows some ghetto wiring because this was durring my testing trials. The white clip is just used to ground my temporary wire that I shoved into the harness. You will want to probably do a better/cleaner job then my pics show. Description of pics in order : -Label of the pin to ground to negative. (thanks to gnlowen, I borrowed his pic) -Closeup of the wire I shoved in the harness -Whole shot of the ghetto grounding job done for testing. -Proof of menu's not locked while car is in motion (I'd take a vid, but hard to do while driving by myself. You can see that the buttons on screen aren't greyed out) -Item to check to see if you have done it correctly ======================= from the Legacy group but supposedly works on the B9s.... not sure yet but will find out soon.. also the only downside seems to be that the NAV will no longer auto start a route. it usually if you drive long enough will automatically select the NAV route after you selected a destination. you have to hit START now after this hack.  from what I read a guy did it on a b9. go from back of drivers seat. unscrew the two rear screws on the NAV DVD Unit cover and you can access the plug in question. its the bottom row of the wide plug see here:
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 06, 2008 6:27 pm) if you did this mod correctly you will see ON. if you do not have the wire in there far enough or the wire is too small it will not register (i.e. is not grounded). if you have Vers 2.0 NAV or Vers 3.0 you will find this signal in the HIDDEN menu. Hit MENU and hold your finger at the top center of the screen (where there is no buttons for 10 full seconds)... it will then pop up a screen asking for code. Enter 0412220 and hit OK then you can find the same NAV Signal screen. Leave the signal screen up if it says PKB = OFF. then try pushing the grounding wire in further until you it changes to ON. I used wire zip ties to hold the ground wire to the large bundle of wires above it (the antenna brown wire). that way it stays in.. reassemble the kick plate with the two bolts and voila you have NAV while moving capabilities!
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just as an FYI ... that plug above where you grounded the wire. that is behind the brown antenna wire is the mini jack for the mic control button and the plug next to it is the input for the NAV Mic. You can use the Kenwood NAV Mic and it works. I have one on order (it runs $65 from Amazon shipped). just a plug and play option. read its best to have the NAV 2.0 or higher for it to work properly. you can then speak into the MIC to issue commands (like GO HOME). ect... pretty neat. cant wait to plug in the mic and command button. 
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 06, 2008 6:27 pm) It'd be really helpful 
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Replying to: caliberchic (May 09, 2008 11:52 am)
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 08, 2008 9:18 pm) Have you received this yet? Can you confirm that it works? I gather you are talking about the KNA-VC300? Thanks for your tip.
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Replying to: nssubie (May 19, 2008 6:51 am) So the only thing is you can not change the female voice prompts from the voice recognition... but YES it works! just put the mic in last night. will have pics sometime later this week when I get a chance to pull them off camera and upload to a hosting site. I ran the wiring along the center console and then up under dash and thru the steering wheel opening on the right side. then mounted mic to top of steering column next to parking light switch and the button to the right of the dash next to the fuel gauge. all the wiring is hidden nicely and no drilling required. You do need I hear NAV DVD version 2 at least or newer. so depending on which NAV disc you have it may have problems recognizing commands with the older NAV discs. I have NAV 2.0 and it works fine. I just heard that it doesn't work as well on the earlier versions. something on the new DVD maps that updated the firmware... got to say its FUN and neat to say GO HOME and bam it asks for Way Point or End Destination. say Destination Point and poof you set to going home. or say I'm Hungry and the restaurants POI pop up
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 19, 2008 7:42 am) awesome news. glad to see you are still trying new things to make the Tribeca better and lettins us know about it. Wasnt that you with the screens in the headrests? I think subaru now offers that on the tribeca as I saw it at the service shop. More importantly can you clarify for myself and others exactly what the model and part# are for the mic and explain best way to install so myself and others that want to can do the same or at least be able to pass on the info to help point the service shop in the right direction. this gives me incentive now to get the NAV 2.0 udpate. I guess i should order that first and then order the mic and get it installed. I will most definately want to do this as we are used to my wifes Acura TL and the superior voice activated nav. speaking of which, any chance of being able to use this mic for integrated bluetooth with your cell phone. I'm in PA but we go to the shore in Jersey where they have a new strict hands free law and will ticket and fine you for using a cell phone. I have a bunch of bluetooth headsets but they are a pain and run out of batterly etc. We use the integrated bluetooth set up with my wifes cell phone in her TL all the time to make and receive calls and its great. i'm surprised Subaru didn't add this in new models but would be nice if they offered it now as an option even for old models. But again maybe with this mic used for voice activated nav could be used for bt for cell phones? |
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 05, 2008 7:49 pm) the only benefit of opening up the nav screen and all as you described is to turn of the parking bright light on dash. but thanks for the info and maybe well try it at some point. shame it only allows video while moving which the above trick also works but still doestn' allow the passenger to use the nav screen while vehicle is moving. everyone said that from the start. if the tribeca can detec when someone is in the passenger seat and show the passenger air bag light on next to the nav screen. then why can't it then enable the nav screen to be operated as long as it detects the passenger. If someone driving chooses to operate it instead of their passenger or trick the seat by point something heavy enough in the seat that would be on them and subaru or kenwood not responsible. i dunno. just shame again from the beginning it can detect a passenger but still not allow operation of the nav. though i guess with the mic you dont need touch screen controls really while moving.
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Replying to: cluelesspa (May 08, 2008 9:18 pm) so i will prob print out your basic instructions and do the mod (or get some help) to enable nav while moving. been waiting since 2005 (yes i got my 06 B9 in July 2005) to do this. then hopefully the nav 3.0 update dvd and mic will be great soon after. then as i said all we need is ability to use that mic for bluetooth with cell phone. thanks again for all your pioneering discoveries and sharing with us especially those that have been on this thread from the beginning with our 06-07 model B9's (which i still think look better then the 08 model)
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