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Ford Freestyle What Would You Change?

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Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? by otis12
Aug 19, 2006 (11:45 am)
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I'm ready to buy a Freestyle as soon as the new 3.5 V-6 and 6-speed tranny replaces current the 3.0/CVT combo. Hopefully, this happens in the middle of the '07 model year. When it does, I am ready to buy. I love the cargo versatility, especially the fold-down front passenger seat and overall interior. Other than the engine/tranny, there is nothing that I would change. Never thought I'd buy a domestic model again but the Freestyle has changed my mind.
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [otis12] by passat_2002
Aug 19, 2006 (8:13 pm)
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Replying to: otis12 (Aug 19, 2006 11:45 am)

Anything is possible these days... but the general consensus is that the 3.5/6-spd. combo won't appear in the Freebie until the '08 model year. The good news is that the '08 model year Freestyle may be out as early as February/March of next year. Let's hope Ford and it's dealers actually feel like telling the public about it this time.
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [passat_2002] by otis12
Aug 20, 2006 (5:40 am)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Aug 19, 2006 8:13 pm)

I agree that better ad support is another change that Ford should make. I just looked thru the Sunday auto section of my newspaper -- 26 pages of display ads for new cars and not one Ford dealer features the Freestyle in its ad! Unbelievable. Crossover vehicles are a hot segment right now as people look for utility with better gas mileage and not word one from Ford dealers about the Freestyle!!! UNBELIEVABLE.
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [otis12] by bruneau1
Aug 20, 2006 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: otis12 (Aug 20, 2006 5:40 am)

My dealer sells Mazda CX-7s and they are parked near the Freestyle. Soon the Edge will arrive. The Freestyles will be glued to the lot. We like our FWD a lot, but are a bit concerned about the death of the CVT at Ford and future service. Also, in an area which does not need AWD, every Freestyle on the lot is AWD and quite expensive loaded up with everything, and not selling. Ford and the dealer are both stupid.
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Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? by saabturboid
Aug 21, 2006 (6:30 am)
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Replying to: otis12 (Aug 19, 2006 11:45 am)

The Freestyle is a fantastic vehicle which suits our family's needs just about perfectly but there is always room for improvement. My preference would be to engineer the vehicle for optimum fuel economy. Ford has gone somewhat this direction with the CVT (I wish they weren't dropping it), but they could go further. The venerable 3.0 Duratec V6 isn't the most thrifty engine in the world.
 
Ford could drop a four-cylinder turbo motor and increase the fuel economy without sacrificing power. This is the direction Mazda has gone with the CX-7. Ford could also install a turbo diesel from one of their European offerings. In either case, this vehicle with a fuel efficient power plant and CVT transmission (or my preference a manual transmission) could get in the mid 30's to even near 40 mpg on the highway. This would blow away any other vehicle on the road from a utility/fuel economy standpoint.... but alas Ford is dropping the CVT. Let's hope they get the rest of it right. No more fuel hungry gas V-6es!
 
- Chad
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [saabturboid] by freealfas
Aug 21, 2006 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Aug 21, 2006 6:30 am)

I'm thinking when I saw 33mpg at sane(65-70) highway speeds on a run back from a north burb of Chicago as backing up our decision to got with our '05. Other than wishing I did more highway miles on the car to help it's mpg numbers it has been the perfect family hauler.
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [saabturboid] by bruneau1
Aug 21, 2006 (10:01 am)
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Replying to: saabturboid (Aug 21, 2006 6:30 am)

A four cylinder turbo often gets poorer mileage than a good v-6, makes more noise, and may be subject to more wear. Ford is dropping the CVT because it is too expensive, less usable with new powertrains unlike the new GM/Ford 6-speed. Also, the Chicago plant which produces the 500, Montego, Freestyle is on the list of plants that will shut down for periods during the last quarter of 2006. A clear indication of sales and inventory problems with those vehicles.
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [bruneau1] by saabturboid
Aug 21, 2006 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: bruneau1 (Aug 21, 2006 10:01 am)

bruneau1 states: "A four cylinder turbo often gets poorer mileage than a good v-6, makes more noise, and may be subject to more wear."
 
I disagree. I have been driving 4-cyl turbos for years and they are a fantastic combination of power and economy. My turbo fours have all been Saabs, but then again Europe has often lead the US in the economy/power realm. When Americans want more power they tend to throw more cylinders at the problem which adds weight and decreases economy. Even with displacement on demand' you are still hauling around 30% extra engine weight.
 
Your comment about longevity is way off the mark. I personally have over 170,000 trouble free miles on my turbo 4-cyl '97 Saab. I know others who have 2 or 3 hundred thousand miles on theirs. Longevity is based on the quality of the engine and proper maintenance, not the number of cylinders.
 
The amount of noise an engine makes varies from engine to engine and is not determined by the number of cylinders. In fact, the argument can be made that the more cylinders there are the more noise is made. Ultimately the amount of noise is determined by the design of the exhaust system.
 
Some complain about a 4cyl not being as smooth as a 6. This may be true, but modern balance shaft 4-cyl engines are very smooth. The only place a high displacement engine is really necessary is when doing heavy towing, and how many of us tow over 5,000lbs every day?
 
Some Americans are catching on and I predict the 244hp turbo 4-cyl Mazda CX-7 will be a hit.
 
- Chad
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Re: Ford Freestyle: What Would You Change? [passat_2002] by rwolsonn
Aug 21, 2006 (2:17 pm)
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Replying to: passat_2002 (Aug 19, 2006 8:13 pm)

I too am waiting for the next freestyle. I thought about trading my Explorer for the current Freestyle, but news stating Ford's terminating CVT production suggests I wait. I thought about the Edge or Mazda CX-7, but I transport kayaks and love sun roofs. Note, you can't get factory roof racks with a sun roof on the Edge; bummer!
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Interior upgrade by otis12
Aug 21, 2006 (5:00 pm)
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I want to see the forward folding front passenger seat have a hard back surface, like several GM products have. The current soft-sided surface rips easily if carrying some elongated objects. As to the CX-7, style is always a matter of personal taste. I prefer the more upright lines of the Freestyle and hope it retains its current shape. The CX-7 sacrifices interior room and cargo versatility for a lower center of gravity and better handing. As to style, it's a matter of personal choice. I also prefer the 3.5 V6, which uses regular gas, to a turbo 4 that likely would require premium.

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