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Re: 2004 Sienna Navigation info needed [gpsjunkie] by oceancruiser
Nov 21, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: gpsjunkie (Apr 23, 2008 8:36 am)

how did you upgrade. I also have a 2004 XLE limited. I took the 3.1 ver out and put the other cd in and the screen said Caution please insert correct program cd. I put the old one back and it still give me the error. PLEASE HELP
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Re: 2004 Sienna Navigation info needed by gpsjunkie
Nov 21, 2008 (3:39 pm)
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I hope you had a dvd, because there is close to 8 GB of data. I have put in downloaded disks and got the same type of error. Putting the original disk back in would fix the problem. In your case, you might turn off and then back on the power and see if it resets itself. If that doesn't work. Check your original disk for fingerprints or smudges. I can't discuss the actual upgrade process
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [gpsjunkie] by navguy1
Nov 21, 2008 (4:47 pm)
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Replying to: gpsjunkie (Nov 19, 2008 7:36 am)

The Toyota DVD map disc includes databases from NAVTEQ and TeleAtlas as well as more POI information. In addition to POI info from NAVTEQ or TeleAtlas, other POI information comes from infoUSA - over 11 million POIs total are included. All of the licensing cost money per copy which raises the DVD map disc cost. Garmin POI count is less than 8 million.
 
Plus, restaurants, shopping, gas stations, hotels, ATMs and coffee shops are branded on the map.
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [navguy1] by ateixeira
Dec 01, 2008 (1:37 pm)
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Replying to: navguy1 (Nov 21, 2008 4:47 pm)

Yeah, but you can get those 8 million POIs for $65 on sale in a circular I saw this weekend.
 
Why should 11 million POIs cost more than 3 times as much?
 
Auto makers have made these serious cash cows for themselves.
 
Mazda is supposed to offer a $500 Navi option on the new Mazda3, hopefully others make their OEM GPS systems similarly affordable.
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [ateixeira] by mdchachi
Dec 05, 2008 (12:19 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 01, 2008 1:37 pm)

Consumer and automotive electronics are different beasts. The relatively low volume products will cost more.
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [mdchachi] by ateixeira
Dec 05, 2008 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Dec 05, 2008 12:19 pm)

They're buying the DVD from the same map suppliers. Aren't there just two main providers? NAVTEQ and I forget who else.
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [ateixeira] by mdchachi
Dec 08, 2008 (8:14 pm)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 05, 2008 1:17 pm)

Navteq & TeleAtlas are map data suppliers however there are more than two suppliers for POI data (which explains why POI quality is not as consistent between systems).
 
Most systems use one map supplier but the Toyota system uses both Navteq & TeleAtlas data (which could add additional cost as well).
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [ateixeira] by gpsjunkie
Dec 08, 2008 (9:37 pm)
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C'mon, If your backup camera goes out, Toyota charges something like $600 for the replacement. Go to Sam's and you can pick up a COMPLETE backup camera system with an 8" screen for something like $140. So it doesn't matter what the source of the data on the DVD, Toyota is getting their pound of flesh out of you. And with less cars selling, they're depending on sales of overpriced parts to weather the financial crisis. My $0.015 (deflation).
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [mdchachi] by ateixeira
Dec 23, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: mdchachi (Dec 08, 2008 8:14 pm)

POIs, that explains part of it.
 
Garmin still is missing the McDonald's in Bridgeville, DE, that has been there for decades.
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re: New Navigation Disk Released v8.1 [gpsjunkie] by ateixeira
Dec 23, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: gpsjunkie (Dec 08, 2008 9:37 pm)

Well, those are not integrated. I like the ones built-in to the rearview mirror, but the installers still have to splice wires.
 
I found a simpler solution - a fish eye lens. It just sticks on with water, and comes right off. Works very well when lighting is good, fair when it's dark. I doubt a camera would be much better in dark conditions.
 
A camera would help if you have a hitch, though, to line up a trailer.

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