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Jeep Commander Start Stall and Idle Problems

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#169 of 211
Jeep Commander stall by jeeptech1
Jan 31, 2008 (5:42 pm)
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Please read my post about this.
thanks jeeptech1
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [jeeptech1] by tidester HOST
Jan 31, 2008 (9:38 pm)
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Replying to: jeeptech1 (Jan 31, 2008 5:40 pm)

Welcome aboard! I'm sure our member will be able to provide some pertinent information and we're looking forward to your report about what's causing the problem.
 
Incidentally, you have up to 30 minutes to edit a message after posting it.
 
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [jeeptech1] by fanman
Jan 31, 2008 (9:56 pm)
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Replying to: jeeptech1 (Jan 31, 2008 5:40 pm)

"official" reponse from chrysler is the DEcember 2007 TSB fixes it. I had the fix done 500 miles ago so we'll see. Interesting questions but I dont think I have any answers that make you happy. With 14 occurunces, to the best of my recollection it has been all ambients, all speeds, all fuel levels - with no emmitting sources nearby. Radio and lights still work, but power braking and power steering goes away.
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [jeeptech1] by bassman8
Feb 01, 2008 (1:16 pm)
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Replying to: jeeptech1 (Jan 31, 2008 5:40 pm)

Hi Jeep tech 1,
TSB 18-049-07 fixes this problem. Please refer to that. Don't waste your time trying to investigate this and figure out what causes it. The fix is known and released to dealers on Dec.13. Just flash any customer vehicle 3.7, 4.7 and it will cure the low speed stalling and the momentary lack of throttle response due to the ESP system.
 
When NHTSA updates their website with Chrysler's response you can read about it there.
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [bassman8] by fanman
Feb 01, 2008 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: bassman8 (Feb 01, 2008 1:16 pm)

my vehicle fails over 40mph, looses power steering and braking,. Chrysyler says this is not possible. So that means they still do not understand the root cause
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [bassman8] by jeeptech1
Feb 01, 2008 (5:54 pm)
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Replying to: bassman8 (Feb 01, 2008 1:16 pm)

sorry, but that tsb does not cure this problem, already been down that road. still want to get to the bottom of it. thanks for the info.
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Jeep commander no start by jeeptech1
Feb 12, 2008 (6:40 pm)
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we'll no info on the stalling commanders yet, has been 15 days, I have a 2006 commander with a 3.7 v6. symptom: at random, the engine will not turn over to start. traced problem to a fault in the headlamp to dash wiring harness. The IPM c2 connector, pin#7, F942 circuit. the ignition circuit will sometimes drop out. if you release the outboard lock on the IPM and tilt the IPM upward, the circuit connects. Have harness ordered. Good luck guys.
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [jeeptech1] by bassman8
Feb 13, 2008 (1:05 pm)
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Replying to: jeeptech1 (Feb 01, 2008 5:54 pm)

No, the TSB would not cure a wiring issue. It sounds like you found the issue on this particular jeep. I have seen one occurrence where a terminal lock was broken in the PDC. That did not prevent a crank, but it did prevent power to the coils. It set 8 faults for coil primary voltage and the vehicle would not start unless you twisted the PDC a certain way, then starting or not was random. It would start and stall or not start at all. It may start and run for 50 feet and then die. The big difference was the presence of fault codes. The issue that I was discussing is fixed by the TSB and never has fault codes present.
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Re: Jeep Commander Stalling [bassman8] by jeeptech1
Feb 13, 2008 (3:40 pm)
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Replying to: bassman8 (Feb 13, 2008 1:05 pm)

mabye you misunderstood me. this commander with the wiring issue is not in for the stalling issue.is it in for a no start. sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Commander stalling update [neumie2000] by lemon06
Feb 27, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Replying to: neumie2000 (Dec 10, 2007 6:01 am)

Update. As it stands I pursued an attorney. They filed a lawsuit against Chrysler back in November 07. About two days prior to Christmas Chrysler called my attorney with an offer. I put some cash in my pocket and keep the truck.
I refused that offer. Why would I want to put a few thousand in my pocket just to continue to own a vehicle I can't drive? I told my attorney that I wish to continue with the court preceedings. I also stated that I want Chrysler to purchase my vehicle back. He said OK. A fews weeks ago Chrysler agreed to buy back my vehicle. They were willing to pay for the accessories except for the ipod connector I had purchased through their parts department. Everything else is after market. Still waiting on the green light to take my back to the dealer and get my check. Thanks for finally coming through Chrysler. Its sad that a law suit had to be filed because you blew me off and Consumer Affairs. Good Luck to the rest of you.

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