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Re: Class Action For Commander? [greanbean]
by lemon06
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Dec 08, 2007 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: greanbean (Nov 04, 2007 1:27 am)
We are now up to 13. I was surprised myself but figured a lot of people may have filed with HTSA and didn't know about this organization. But this is the way to get the word out. ">link title
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- #159 of 211
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Re: Commander stalling update [csamos2]
by lemon06
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Dec 08, 2007 (5:16 am)
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Replying to: csamos2 (Dec 06, 2007 1:08 pm)
Well, that is great news for you. However, I have followed the same exact channels as yourself and Chrysler has not bothered to contact me and or Consumer Affairs. So, I've contacted an attorney and this case will be taken to court. It will be interesting to hear why Chrysler hasn't replied to my complaint and that of Consumer Affairs. And by the way I reside in Va. and it doesn't seem to matter to Chrysler where you live and how strict your state lemon law is so, consider yourself one of the lucky ones. My vehicle is purchased so I don't know if your vehicle being leased and all had some affect on your outcome. I mean after all in the long run who is going to be stuck with the truck at the end? I have thrown Chrysler under the bus, train, and the plane. Thank god our troops don't have to use any of their vehicle parts to move across the desert. The war would have been over a long time ago seeing how they would have been sitting ducks getting plucked out of the sand because of Chrysler's commitment to excellence.
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- #160 of 211
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Re: I'm Curious [akennedy]
by lemon06
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Dec 08, 2007 (5:29 am)
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Replying to: akennedy (Oct 29, 2007 6:15 am)
Been there done that.
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- #161 of 211
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Re: Commander stalling update [lemon06]
by neumie2000
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Dec 10, 2007 (6:01 am)
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Replying to: lemon06 (Dec 08, 2007 5:16 am)
I'm sorry for your troubles. Be aware, however, that you likely signed an arbitration clause (whether you knew you did so is another story) as part of your purchasing documents so your chances of getting to court are somewhat diminished. Good luck, and keep us posted.
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- #162 of 211
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Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ?
by katmandu2
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Jan 04, 2008 (12:38 am)
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Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ?
Also, check out the Commander's Technical Service Bulletins (aka TSBs)
VERY INFORMATIVE !!!!!!!
http://www.xkjeeps.com/tsb/tsb_xk_2300406.pdf
The dealers have NO excuse NOT to know about ANY and ALL TSBs !!!
When you take your vehicle in for service, INSIST that all TSBs be accounted for for your vehicle!
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- #163 of 211
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Re: Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ? [katmandu2]
by steve_ HOST
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Jan 04, 2008 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: katmandu2 (Jan 04, 2008 12:38 am)
I'm not sure what you mean by "be accounted for" but the dealer isn't likely to perform any TSB procedure unless the tech can confirm a problem exists.
You, Your Vehicle and the Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)
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- #164 of 211
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Re: Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ? [katmandu2]
by bassman8
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Jan 05, 2008 (11:44 am)
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Replying to: katmandu2 (Jan 04, 2008 12:38 am)
No, 2008 Commanders are not affected. Reference TSB 18-049-07 released on December 13, 2007, this should fix any 2006 4.7 Commander with actual low speed stalling issues. This TSB will also fix any 3.7 or 4.7 that has a momentary ESP actuation with an associated short lack of throttle response. 5.7 Commanders are not affected by either of these conditions.
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- #165 of 211
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Re: Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ? [bassman8]
by fanman
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Jan 14, 2008 (1:52 pm)
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Replying to: bassman8 (Jan 05, 2008 11:44 am)
My car is at the dealer RIGHT NOW for the 14th stall and when he just mentioned they found a TSB, I googled and here I am!
How do you know TSB 18-049-07 fixes a 2006 4x2 4.7L? I could not see the stalling info anywhere in it? "momentary ESP actuation with an associated short lack of throttle response" doesn't quite explain that it dies and you loose power steering and brakes on the frreway or railroad tracks.
I hope you are right so I dont have to waste 2 hours a week with Chrysler, the NTHSA or the Texas Lemon Law
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- #166 of 211
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Re: Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ? [fanman]
by bassman8
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Jan 15, 2008 (12:08 pm)
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Replying to: fanman (Jan 14, 2008 1:52 pm)
First, you didn't read further in the TSB regarding low idle speeds. This is what applies in your case. Also, just an FYI, you don't lose steering and brakes. At low speeds you may lose steering assist, but that is really inconsequential. You don't lose power brake assist either unless you're pumping the brakes. You always have about 3 pedal strokes under full assist mode even when the engine stops running. That should be more than enough to get you stopped. Trust me, this will fix your problem.
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- #167 of 211
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Re: Are 08 Commanders having this stalling issue as well ? [bassman8]
by fanman
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Jan 15, 2008 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: bassman8 (Jan 15, 2008 12:08 pm)
Reading the TSB, How does ESP premature activation at low idle speed = car dies?
It has always happened when my wife drives so I cant comment on how difficult braking and steering is. I think its the "Oh Sh* ! - it happened again!" panic factor more than anything else.
Just picked it up fprm the dealer who says the fix was "flash PCM (Powertrain Control Module) - STAR solution K50951304" and described it as a SW update to prevent the sensor from cutting off oxygen at throtlle and killing the engine. I could not google that fix and have not talked to the tech yet. Any advise where to look to see of this is legit?
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