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Re: Driving and My Commander TURNS OFF [cbestbaby]
by erin22
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Oct 14, 2007 (6:22 am)
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Replying to: cbestbaby (Oct 13, 2007 6:11 pm)
I am so sorry you went through this!!!!I truly believe Chrysler needs to take all the 06 Jeep Commanders off the road. There is a design flaw in this car and somebody is going to get very hurt or worse. My husband and I bought a used 06 Jeep Commander in July of this year. Just as you and your husband did, we found a great deal on a used one. We were so excited! However, that quickly turned to anger and disgust with a flawed car that we were sold. We now have a car that I am afraid to put my children in and won't drive. While driving at 40mph the car just stalled/died and I lost my breaks and steering capability. I had my children in the car and I was TERRIFIED, just as you were!!!!! It happened again a few weeks later. The jeep dealership had a Chrysler engineer come down and run a diagnostic test and they replaced the ignition switch, but I was told that they can't guarentee the stalling will stop. The dealership acted like I was this ignorant woman, they kept telling me they are going to keep the car and put a recording device on it to recreate the stall. Of course it never happened during the two weeks they had my car. I will tell you my husband and I have come to find out their is an ongoing investigation called an Engineering Analysis on all 06 Jeep Commanders. We found this out after we filed a complaint with the NHTSA. Also filed one with Chrysler, but they neglected to tell me they have an investigation ongoing regarding the stalling issue.. Real nice Chrysler! Go to the NHTSA website and you can find the monthly defect investigations reports... The jeep Commanders investigation is EA07-007 for you guessed it ENGINE STALL the investigation was opened on April 27,2007 and is still ongoing.....and of course Chrysler is still selling these cars to innocent people. Here is what the investigation reads. The office of Department of Investigations ODI has received 76 vehicle owner complaints alleging incidents of engine stall while driving in model year 2006 through 2007 jeep commanders. Some of the complaints reported one or more incidents of engine stall with a simultaneous loss of some or all lightining systems, including headlamps. Two engine stalls resulted in vehicle crash. In its response to a request for information, Daimlerchyrsler indicated that it has NOT determined the cause of engine stalling in the subject vehicles and that it has formed a multi-discplinary task force to investigate the issue. An engineering analysis has been opened to further assess the frequency, scop and potential safety consequences of the alledged defect.}}}}}}} Ok so with that Chrysler has no idea how to fix this prblem yet these dealerships are coming up with these off the wall excuseds just as you said "barometric pressure freak incident". I was told what happened was an "onamally". Then we were told the stall happened because of carbon build up on the engine, then we were told my knee probably hit the keys and caused and electrical circuit...finally they brought in the engineer and they switched out the ignition switch, but all in all the car is not fixed and yet even though Chrysler knows this horrible problem exists which they currently have no fix for....they are still selling these cars used!!!! This has been one of the worst experiences of our lives. I hope that you are able to find resolution to the problem and I thank your husband for his service to our country! My brother in law just got back six months ago from Iraq. He was there for 18 months.
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- #130 of 211
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Re: Driving and My Commander TURNS OFF [cbestbaby]
by eucnoble
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Oct 17, 2007 (7:52 pm)
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Replying to: cbestbaby (Oct 13, 2007 6:11 pm)
Its not just the '06s. I bought my '07 towards the end of July '07. Its truly is irresponsible and incomprehensible that Chrysler is still selling these vehicles or that there has not been a recall. My guess is that the actuaries have calculated that it will be cheaper to defend a lawsuit than it would be to stop selling and/or recall the cars. They realy don't care whether someone dies.
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- #131 of 211
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2006 Commander fix
by akennedy
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Oct 18, 2007 (8:19 pm)
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We have a 2006 commander 5.7 Hemi that started stalling..we almost got in a couple of accidents...we printed off stories from this message board and took it to our dealership in Riverside, CA. They replaced the MAP sensor and we haven't had any stalling problems like that since.
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- #132 of 211
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Re: 2006 Commander fix [akennedy]
by eucnoble
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Oct 19, 2007 (6:14 pm)
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Replying to: akennedy (Oct 18, 2007 8:19 pm)
My '07 is a Jeep Commander Sport 4X4 with a 3.7L engine. The dealer I took it to told me they were not aware of any problems with the Commanders and that they do not know what is causing it. Once I explained to them that the NHTSA was investigating the problem they offered to look into it further but said they would need the car for a couple of days. Didn't help.
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- #133 of 211
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Re: 2006 Commander stalling fix [eucnoble]
by csamos2
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Oct 22, 2007 (5:47 pm)
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Replying to: eucnoble (Oct 19, 2007 6:14 pm)
Well, I was pulling out of the dealership after picking my Commander up from having them work on my stalling issue. The dealership could not duplicate the problem (for the second time). And sure enough, as i drove out into traffic and attempted to make a left hand u-turn, the thing stalled on me. Absolutely uncanny. Me and my service rep (who has been excellent throughout the process) even joked that as soon as I drove off, the vehicle would stall. I love the Jeep, but it replaced an Acura MDX which had no problems during the 4 years we owned it. I dont want these kinds of issues in a brand new car.
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Re: 2006 Commander stalling fix [csamos2]
by swingo
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Oct 24, 2007 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: csamos2 (Oct 22, 2007 5:47 pm)
Does anyone know what is causing the jeep to stall. mine is doing the same thing and its going to the shop on MOnday .
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Re: Good news! [jenh1]
by lemon06
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Oct 28, 2007 (7:34 am)
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Replying to: jenh1 (Aug 03, 2007 1:14 pm)
Hello. I have since passed what your currently starting. I sent Chrysler a formal complaint with copies of my engine stalls ( five to be exact) in the state of Va. you only need three. I gave Chrysler 30 days to respond to my request of a buy back. They never responded. I know they received my package because it was sent certified mail. I have since put the Agricultural Consumer Affairs on this case. I was sent a letter from Consumer Affairs that was a copy that they sent to Chrysler giving them seven business days in which to respond. Its been 8 business days and I haven't heard a thing. I think its time for a class action law suit against Chrysler. Please all consider this option. Chrysler is dumping this garbage off to consumers at alarming low prices. Consumers are getting all kinds of discounts and think they're getting a deal. I never thought to report this to the National Highway Commission. I was told by a mechanic for Chrysler that Chrysler is aware of the problem with the engine stalls but have no idea what's causing it. He further stated that he replaced the entire computer board in a truck and that didn't do the trick. He also added that a woman took Chrysler to court for this problem and she lost because she couldn't afford to appeal the case. She lost because the lawyers for Chrysler convinced the judge and or jury that she was bumping the key causing the truck to shut off. This is what we're dealing with people. Chrysler does not partake in the BBB Auto line. Chrysler does not provide a mediator to help you the consumer to negotiate a mutual agreement with their company. I was also told by this mechanic that Mopar made Chrysler do an investigation on their parts. Everything the service department does it at a guess. And the dealers will tell you that they never heard of this problem. B.S. I will keep you all posted as to what happens with my case. One last thing. I was listening to a local all news/weather station a week ago and they reported Chrysler is going through financial hardship. Go figure.
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Re: I'm Curious
by akennedy
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Oct 29, 2007 (6:15 am)
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Replying to: lemon06 (Oct 28, 2007 7:34 am)
I replied in message 131 that when our dealership replaced our MAP sensor and reflashed the computer in our 06 Jeep Commander the stalling, and I'm talking about complete freezing of everything...couldn't turn the steering wheel, brakes wouldn't work, etc., was fixed....this has been over a year and it hasn't happened again....has anybody asked their dealership about this?? Our dealership is in Riverside, CA....Has anyone tried this fix???
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Re: Good news! [lemon06]
by kjones2
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Oct 29, 2007 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: lemon06 (Oct 28, 2007 7:34 am)
Good luck with it - but don't expect Chrysler to respond with any integrity. Mine, too, had met the requirements for lemon law (stalled and went to shop 6 separate times; the first 7 months, it was in the shop almost 2 months total; 3 out of 7 seatbelts replaced, etc.) I went through a consumer protection lawyer in Atlanta (I live in MS) and after a 4 month delay (Chrysler legal dept couldn't locate my file), we settled with a measly cash payment and kept the vehicle. They would not buy it back although I had over 30 pages of documentation. I think their loophole was the dealer "couldn't duplicate the problem on demand". I did file with the NTSB and they and Chrysler have launched an investigation but I haven't seen anything else about it. We took a significant financial loss, but I couldn't keep putting my kids in that vehicle and worrying about it stalling. Hard lesson learned. Wish you all the best with your case.
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Re: Good news! [kjones2]
by lemon06
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Oct 30, 2007 (4:25 pm)
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Replying to: kjones2 (Oct 29, 2007 6:44 am)
Thanks for that information. I to have retained an attorney to help with this issue. I did question about the can't duplicate the problem. That is on one of my papers from the dealer. I see this is what Chrysler is using to get around how many times you sent the car in for repairs. They don't consider that a repair because nothing was done. Wonder how they see it that way. Obviously, they tried to do something. I can't state enough about a class action lawsuit or call your local television stations and put them on air. They can't get away with selling crap to consumers. You mentioned a measly settlement. What did that consist of? Not asking for dollar amounts just wondering if they paid you back for repairs.
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