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Hyundai Azera Transmission

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Re: Transmission problem? [deeperblue] by louie7
Aug 16, 2006 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: deeperblue (Aug 16, 2006 9:01 am)

driving 2500 miles so far, no hesitation problems, mine madee in April or May.
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Re: Transmission problem? [deeperblue] by ray_h1
Aug 16, 2006 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: deeperblue (Aug 16, 2006 9:01 am)

"Every time when I tried to shift from R to D, I felt a half second delay before I could drive forward. Also, when using the manual shift, there was a delay of 0.5 sec as well during 2-1 down shift."
 
I'm not saying you don't have a problem, but I'm not convinced you do, either. A half second may be in the realm of normal operation. It takes some time, regardless how brief, for the pump to pressurize the appropriate clutches once the valve body solonoids activate for a shift or mode change. At engine idle speed, that delay might be perceptably longer. There's also the matter of tranny clutch materials running-in to their full adhesion properties. (Their milled surfaces are somewhat soft, initially, and slip a bit in the takeup transitions. I had a hard time distinguishing my '03 Sonata's shifts at all for the first couple of weeks. After a thousand miles, they became consistently noticeable - but still creamy smooth, even to this day. Hyundai definitely got shift quality right on mine.) Finally, your "fuzzy logic" TCM mapping is slowly learning your driving characteristics. Definitely have your dealer check it out, though. Maybe drive a well run-in demo for comparison while you're there, too.
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Re: Transmission problem? [ray_h1] by deeperblue
Aug 16, 2006 (12:32 pm)
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Replying to: ray_h1 (Aug 16, 2006 12:15 pm)

Thanks a lot Ray. Got ur point. Though what I still don't feel comfortable is the fact that except 2-1 shift, all other shifts (3-2 4-3 1-2...) are OK. The only noticable delay is from 2-1 shift which coincides with the TSB's 1-2 tranny problem. You are right, I should drive an already broken-in car for comparison.
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Re: Transmission problem? [deeperblue] by ratledge
Aug 16, 2006 (1:27 pm)
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Replying to: deeperblue (Aug 16, 2006 12:32 pm)

Yep, but the TSB is specifically for shifting from 1st into 2nd shift-up under wide-open throttle. Other than that, it does not address any transmission problems...
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Re: Transmission problem? [deeperblue] by tonycd
Aug 17, 2006 (8:25 pm)
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Replying to: deeperblue (Aug 16, 2006 12:32 pm)

Wonderful post by ray h1. He's proving to be a formidable resource for everyone who enjoys this board, specifically including me.
 
You might want to run a search of this forum, too. There were a lot of earlier posts about how the "learning" aspect of the tranny might be mis-taught by a succession of test drivers before you ever took delivery of the car. The dealer can reset this so it can learn your habits from scratch, though knowledgeable posts indicate it's not as simple a task as disconnecting the battery as some have thought.
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Re: Transmission problem? [tonycd] by ray_h1
Aug 18, 2006 (7:27 am)
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Replying to: tonycd (Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm)

--"...posts indicate it's not as simple a task as disconnecting the battery as some have thought..."--
 
Briefly disconnecting the battery's negative terminal used to wipe the TCM's volatile memory and less than a minute was sufficient. However, Hyundai responded to owner complaints that whenever the battery was disconnected for replacement or other electrical repair procedures, sometimes at advanced accumulated mileage*, their transmissions shifted like poop afterward. Hyundai's response in mid-2004 was to use non-volatile memory in the TCM to store shift point/quality mapping. To erase the accumulated mapping now requires active intervention with the handy-dandy HighScan code-reader/reprogramming tool.
 
*Adaptive learning also elliminates the need for periodic trips back to the dealership for transmission band adjustments. The good news is that "takeup" over the service life of the transmission is essentially continuous. The not-so-good news for owners of pre-2004 Hyundai automatics is that, should the battery be disconnected at some advanced accumulated mileage, "getting back" to previously established shift patterns with currently established clutch facing wear, is likely to be a somewhat drawn-out process...
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Re: Wall Street Journal Review [bigo08] by pahefner01
Aug 20, 2006 (5:14 pm)
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Replying to: bigo08 (Apr 16, 2006 9:37 pm)

My wife's nephew just got a Chevy dealership and I researched the Impala SS which is the only comparable Impala to the Azera. It still doesn't have many of the features of the Azera such as seat and mirror memory and numerous other features. When you actually price the cars out at invoice and what it can be purchased for the invoice on the Impala SS is higher than the Azera. I drove an Impala LT new rental car when travelling in May. The LT has cloth interior and is severely lacking on horsepower and the cloth interior is very bland. The car also handled like a boat. I've also driven my cousins Saturns, more than one, and there is no comparison to even the Hyundai Sonata. I asume you are a Chevy person which is okay but facts are required for posting a message. Don't we all know that the sticker price on cars is not the real price. Also the Hyundai warranty is worth a lot. I've driven both the Impala and researched both before buying. I bought a 2002 XG350L as an "experiment" and the car was still running flawleslly when I traded it. I had no problems with the car other than a wheel bearing which is not unommon on any car. My job allows me to drive many types of cars and I've driven the Impala, Chysler 300 and many others. That's the reason I'm driving an Azera limited.
I realize this reply might not make you happy but it simply states the facts.
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check eng light and slow/no acceleration by windycity7
Aug 28, 2006 (9:21 am)
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my 2006 Azera with 4900 miles started up and the check eng light came on as well as the ESC. pushing the ESC did not turn it off.
as i drove, there was almost no acceleration. pulled over and had Hyundai road service tow it to the dealer. any idea what this is? dealer can't look at it until tomorrow.
They did provide a loaner (brand new sonata V6 but its not my Azera!?!)
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Re: check eng light and slow/no acceleration [windycity7] by windycity7
Sep 01, 2006 (4:31 am)
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Replying to: windycity7 (Aug 28, 2006 9:21 am)

this turned out to be a problem with the gas pedal assembly - P2106 and was replaced with no problem. no charge. apparently some earlier Azeras have this problem - mine is a Dec 05 manufacture date.

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