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#84 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles
Oct 28, 2009 (11:19 am)
Well it happened to me. Last Friday I got into the TSX and no clutch. Had it towed to Walker Acura here in New Orleans. Monday evening the service manager calls and confirms clutch is shot and repairs will not be covered under warranty because this is a wear and tear item. I express dismay, since the car only has 19,000 miles on it. He will not budge. I call Acura Client Services and am basically told " too bad" clutch considered a wear and tear item. I explain I am 58 years old and certainly do not dog the car. No avail.
I have been driving manual transmissions since I was 15. My current daily driver is a 2002 Corvette 6 speed with over 80,000 miles. Never a clutch problem.
I am highly disappointed with Acura. This is my second Acura ( I had a manual CL a few years back) but likely my last. I expect this kind of blow off from GM but not Honda. Fortunately I am an attorney so I will pursue this in small claims court if need be. Again,my beef is with Acura, not the dealer. From other posts on this site I see premature clutch failure is a recurring problem that Acura just does not want to address.
#85 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [djfoster]
Oct 28, 2009 (11:39 am)
Before I sold the car in 2005, the T/O bearing on my 2004 TSX clutch started going out at 18,000 miles. The dealer fixed my car under warranty.
It's my opinion that the drive-by-wire throttle is a contributor to the problem. Throttle tip-in is more sensitive/sudden than on manual cars of a few years ago (with conventional cable actuated throttles), and it's more strain on the clutch to get a smooth engagement/disengagement.
#86 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [djfoster]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 28, 2009 (1:00 pm)
It's very hard to judge clutch failure without having the parts in front of us.
If you pull off the pressure plate and the springs fall out, that's probably a defect. Certainly a bad TO bearing is a defect (in the warranty period I mean).
But a clutch disk worn to the rivets and a flywheel burned blue---well that's probably the driver. (presuming the pressure plate is functioning well and intact).
Sometimes (often?) it's a combination effect....the hydraulics malfunction and the driver keeps on rolling in spite of that, making life harder for clutch and synchros.
Even geography is an issue. A clutch in San Francisco is going to fail more often than one in Kansas. This goes without saying, all other things being equal. And one in snow country probably wears faster than one in Arizona.
And one that tows a trailer, etc.
#87 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 28, 2009 (1:09 pm)
Thanks. I am bringing the parts to my Corvette mechanic. It just seems to me, absent intentional abuse, a clutch should not fail in under 20000 miles.
#88 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [djfoster]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 28, 2009 (1:19 pm)
That's a good idea. Maybe he can spot something.
#89 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [Mr_Shiftright]
Oct 29, 2009 (11:43 am)
Well it looks like this might have a reasonably happy ending after all. Got a call from the service manager today that Acura, as a gesture of " goodwill", will cover all the parts and labor for the repairs except for the cost of the clutch disc itself, which the manages says will be under $ 400. So what started out as a $ 1500 to $ 2000 or so job will cost me less than $ 400.
This seems reasonable to me and goes a long way to restoring my faith in Acura and its dealers.
#90 of 141 One Would Hope. . .
Oct 29, 2009 (4:56 pm)
that the cost (or price) of a clutch disc is under $400.
#91 of 141 Re: One Would Hope. . . [cdnpinhead]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 29, 2009 (8:03 pm)
Must be one of those gold-plated disks used for racing!
#92 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [djfoster]
Oct 30, 2009 (1:21 pm)
Wow, terrible! I am sorry to hear that. I wonder what the deal is with Acura TSX clutches? Hasn't Honda been doing this right for many years?
I sure hope you are somehow able to make things happen! In my experience, it was the dealer that ultimately made the call to cover my clutch fix... they told me they would take care of it but only bc I had bought 2 cars from them and taken it there for all of its servicing.
I say good luck to you!! It is outrageous for them to not cover that in a situation like yours.
#93 of 141 Re: Clutch Failure 2006 TSX 19000 miles [djfoster]
Oct 30, 2009 (1:23 pm)
Wow, awesome! That sounds MUCH more reasonable than nothing covered! So glad to hear your luck turned around! =)