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Clutch Problems
by shadnum2
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Feb 07, 2005 (1:40 pm)
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I've had my '04 TSX since last jan. and it has about 16,000 miles on it. last week, my clutch started to stick and when i took it into the dealer this morning, they said it could be "wear and tear" or a manufacturer's defect but it needs to be replaced either way...has anyone else had their clutch go out after 1yr/16000 miles???
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Re: Clutch Problems [shadnum2]
by lmacmil
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Feb 07, 2005 (4:51 pm)
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Replying to: shadnum2 (Feb 07, 2005 1:40 pm)
I don't have a TSX yet, but I recall the Car & Driver review saying that the electronic throttle control was unnecessarily hard on the clutch.
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Re: Clutch Problems [shadnum2]
by shadnum2
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Feb 08, 2005 (6:39 pm)
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Replying to: shadnum2 (Feb 07, 2005 1:40 pm)
so the dealer got back to me on my clutch problem and they said that it was worn out??? after 16,000 miles and only a year? i don't believe that i should have to cover an expense as big as this soo freakin' soon, especially when the rest of the car is in perfect condition and i had a major service done on it at 10,000 miles in which they told me everything was fine!
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Re: Clutch Problems [shadnum2]
by rko2
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Feb 09, 2005 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: shadnum2 (Feb 08, 2005 6:39 pm)
If I were you, I wouldn't rest until Acura paid for it. Even if you learned to drive manual on it, there is no way it should be dead already unless there was a defect. Two examples...
My friend's '91 Acura Legend, new cluch after 170k miles
My girlfriend's '93 Toyota Celica, still original after 105k miles and 3 people learning manual on it.
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Re: Clutch Problems [shadnum2]
by marvincbr
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Mar 01, 2005 (3:36 pm)
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Replying to: shadnum2 (Feb 08, 2005 6:39 pm)
My TSX is 2 years old with 30,000 miles on it, was told by the dealer that I had complete clutch failure. Wear and tear item, not covered.$1700 to fix. Acura has had my car for 2 weeks now, waiting for the parts, because they are so hard to get, hmmm, I wonder why.
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Re: Clutch Problems [marvincbr]
by kyfdx HOST
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Mar 02, 2005 (7:41 am)
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Replying to: marvincbr (Mar 01, 2005 3:36 pm)
Full clutch job and a flywheel at the dealer.. $1700 sounds about right..
You could probably get it done much cheaper at an independent, but a little late for that now..
If your clutch goes in the first 10K, you might have a beef.. but, if you expect a dealer or Acura to pay for a clutch after 30K miles, you'll be sorely disappointed..
You might be the best manual-shift driver in the world, but many people aren't.. and you can burn out a clutch in one day, if you are really bad or new at it...
In summary, there could be many reasons for your clutch wearing prematurely, but after 30K miles, there is no way to prove any of them... The dealer/manufacturer will always assume it is because of driving habits...
And this isn't just Acura... every make has the same policy..
Sorry about your luck..
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Clutch Problems [kyfdx]
by indydriver
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Mar 02, 2005 (2:34 pm)
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Replying to: kyfdx (Mar 02, 2005 7:41 am)
Asking a manufacturer to replace a worn out clutch is like asking them to replace worn out brakes or tires. Completely dependent on driving style. There are lots of shops that work on Hondas and other J-Land imports and you'll pay a grand or less. No reason to support high priced dealer service.
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Clutch failure
by uncledavid
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Mar 01, 2005 (6:50 pm)
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Replying to: marvincbr (Mar 01, 2005 3:36 pm)
So, your clutch failed and that is costing you $1700 to fix, eh? In other words, your TSX had the world's most expensive clutch. I can't begin to imagine a clutch costing nearly that much to replace, nor do I believe that Honda/Acura is not willing to perform warranty repairs on a 2-year old car.
Sorry, but none of this sounds very believable to me. Either your dealer is not being very honest with you, or you are not being very honest with us.
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Re: Clutch failure [uncledavid]
by marvincbr
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Mar 01, 2005 (7:45 pm)
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Replying to: uncledavid (Mar 01, 2005 6:50 pm)
I'm sorry that you are having a problem with my honesty, but that is what Acura service told us. When we fist dropped the car off, the price was $1340 before tax to fix the clutch which I believe included the pressure plate, clutch pad and throw out bearing. Now today the also told us the the flywheel should be replaced at an added cost of $200 which brings the total to around $1700 with tax and all. We called the 800 number for Acura consumer assistance and were assigned a case worker to investigate the fact that we thought this should be covered by warranty. The case worker basically called the service dept. at the dealer that has our car, asked them about it, they stated it was a wear item, case worker said it would not be covered thank you for calling Acura. So we thought we would do a little looking on the net to see if anyone else might be having trouble with the same thing and came across this forum and thought we would chime in with our experience. Didn't think we would have our honesty questioned.
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Re: Clutch failure [marvincbr]
by kasperghost
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Mar 01, 2005 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: marvincbr (Mar 01, 2005 7:45 pm)
Sorry to hear about your pains. Regardless of it being a wearable item- if it fails FAR before the expected life span, it should be "covered" under warranty even if it is not printed in black and white.
It is my understanding that modern clutches are designed to last approx. 100 k. before replacement. I would ask what the expected life of the clutch is on a TSX. I would then ask for them to show you the clutch and why they think you were the cause of the failure- abuse will be very evident- if you are not the cause or they cannot say that this is why the clutch failed, I would ask for them to pay for it. Ultimately they can refuse you, but IMHO, they have a weak leg to stand on for not paying for it.
Customer pay repairs are the most profitable and far outstrip the money made on warranty- warranty is kind of like Medicaid for cars.
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