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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [Mr_Shiftright]
by dhejna
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Oct 30, 2006 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 28, 2006 10:17 am)
Thanks for the feedback. I asked the dealer to save the parts (he didn't) but instead sent me pictures. I'm in the process this week of documenting my case.....I'm also going to look into the risks of the hydraulic (vs. cable) clutches installed over the last few years .....I've heard they behave substantially differently - and of course have pros and cons...... one of the cons being that this type of clutch is engineered to clutch "for you" in certain cases.....so will lead to premature wear and tear...
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- #59 of 94
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhejna]
by dhio
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Nov 14, 2006 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: dhejna (Oct 30, 2006 11:35 am)
I too had my clutch fail at less than 38,000 miles. I was stunned to be told today by the dealership, and later a zone rep from Acura, that they would not replace it because of driver abuse. Basically, they said that they believe because of wear on my tire treads (they claimed the fronts were 'bald' despite the fact that they just passed a state inspection) and the state of the clutch that they think the damage could only be done if I was racing or something. If you knew me, you'd know just how funny this is... I am a 36yo woman who has never raced a car in her life. I drove my Honda Civic for 8 years without a single clutch problem (or other mechanical issue, for that matter) and my TSX goes only from home (in a hilly neighborhood) to work (in a congested downtown area). I don't know how the tires got worn that way, unless it was as I was spinning the tires trying to get the car out of a middle lane on a hill after the clutch went out Saturday.
Anyway, I loved my TSX and I thought I loved Acura, but I'm just baffled by this.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhio]
by clubkitty
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Nov 30, 2006 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: dhio (Nov 14, 2006 4:46 pm)
I also have had my clutch fail at less than 30k. Acura has been very insistent that its simply the fact that women can't drive a manual transmission and maybe some driving lessons would help! I've got over a decade worth of experience driving exclusively MT vehicles and I seriously doubt it's me. I've been dealing with acura since June, and now they tell me it's simply wear & tear. In a car I've owned for less than a year it has spent almost half of that time in the shop for various malfunctions. I go back today to get my car, but I think I know what they're going to stay---
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [clubkitty]
by robr2
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Nov 30, 2006 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: clubkitty (Nov 30, 2006 4:38 am)
Folks - a clutch is a wear part. Typically manufacturers will cover it for 12 months/12K miles as a courtesy but after that, it's considered to be worn.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [robr2]
by johnny420
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Nov 30, 2006 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Nov 30, 2006 7:52 am)
Folks - a clutch is a wear part. Typically manufacturers will cover it for 12 months/12K miles as a courtesy but after that, it's considered to be worn.
Yeah, it's a wear item, but a clutch failing at 30K miles is ridiculous. Short of outright abuse, I can't envision a scenario where normal use would cause this, unless there's something inherently wrong with the clutch assembly.
I've been driving MT equipped vehicles for 29 years, and I've never had a clutch wear out in less than 100K miles, and they usually run out to 120K or so.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Nov 30, 2006 (9:34 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Nov 30, 2006 9:30 am)
They might have engineered the clutch for very smooth operation and very little effort, at the cost of durability. I think if I were a good stichshift driver and I still had premature clutch wear, I would opt to install a heavier duty clutch and pressure plate next time around. I'm sure they make 'em for Acura. If the pressure plate doesn't apply enough force, the disk will slip and that means wear. I'd risk a little strain on my left leg and possibly a little clutch grab for 3X the clutch life.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by robr2
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Nov 30, 2006 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Nov 30, 2006 9:30 am)
Oh I agree, it's rare to have a clutch wear out at 30K.
I've owned plenty as well and only my first MT vehicle wore out that quickly - first clutch at 11K, second clutch at 30K.
Next vehicle was fine at 80K when I traded it and after that was fine at 140K when I traded it.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [Mr_Shiftright]
by johnny420
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Nov 30, 2006 (5:29 pm)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Nov 30, 2006 9:34 am)
Well, if they did that they made a mistake, IMO. Honda clutch's are known for their durability. To all of a sudden reverse field and produce a clutch with shorter life in the name of smoothness is ludicrous.
Besides, many other TSX drivers I know of have gone over a 100K with no issues.
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2004 TSX 6MT - clutch failure TWICE!
by levinbrook
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Dec 10, 2007 (5:50 pm)
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Hi all,
I bought the car used at 35K miles and i LOVE IT, it's the first car I honestly and truly love. at 46K miles, the clutch failed. stopped on the freeway. the car is under extended warranty but ha-ha, that doesn't include the clutch. I bit my tongue and paid $2K to a dealership, blaming the damage on the first owner.
10 months and 14K miles later (today), I took it in for a 60,000 mile service and mentioned that I didn't like how clutch behaved ever since another dealership put in a new one. MY CLUTCH FAILED AGAIN, they tell me. the warranty covers 12 months or 12K miles, so i'm out of luck.
may be i'm not the world's best driver, but I know that I don't burn rubber and I don't ride the clutch. 14 K MILES FOR A NEW CLUTCH!!!!
I called corporate and found out that they don't have:
(1) technical experts capable of telling me about expected life expectancies of any parts
(2) legal advisors capable of offering guidance
am I crazy? or should a clutch last longer than 10 months under normal driving conditions?
please, I'm in dire need of sanity check before I sell my baby ....
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