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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [nj2pa2nc]
by johnny420
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Oct 05, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Oct 04, 2006 11:03 am)
The TSX comes with a bumper-to-bumper warranty and the clutch lies between the bumpers. I agree it's a normal wear item, but 50K miles is way premature for a clutch to fail unless it's been hammered on or abused.
I would argue vehemently with the dealer to have this covered. If that doesn't work, contact Acura and deal with them.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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- #54 of 94
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by robr2
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Oct 05, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 05, 2006 9:08 am)
Typically many clutch parts are excluded from the B to B warranty as they are wear items just like brake pads, wipers, et al.
Usually wear parts in the clutch will be covered for 12K/12 months as they figure nobody should be able to kill a clutch that quickly.
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- #55 of 94
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by dhejna
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Oct 05, 2006 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 05, 2006 9:08 am)
Thanks again for your reply. I agree re the prematurity clutch - I live outside SF - bit more hilly around here -- but still ----The service manager is keeping the parts, took pictures of the parts, said he had the "corporate service managers" look at it, etc. and say it is a "wear" problem - that I either "rode the clutch" or the previous owner did (I bought the car with 13K miles). I will pursue with Acura corporate.....unfortuntately, I've got a "bail" the car out today.....it will be a matter of me trying to get my $ back ....thx so much again for your feedback - much appreciated ...
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clutch
by jerseyguy1
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Oct 07, 2006 (9:37 am)
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Cannot comment on Acura clutch warranties but I can tell you that to burn out a modern clutch in 50,000 miles you have to just about intentionally do it. One of my Audis got 185,000 out of its orignal clutch and audi I once had got to 175,000 on its clutch. Mostly in town driving. did not abuse it but did not baby it either.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhejna]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Oct 28, 2006 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: dhejna (Oct 05, 2006 2:09 pm)
If the clutch is removed and the clutch disk is worn down to the rivets, or the flywheel is burned blue and the pressure plate is intact and undamaged, I don't think a "defective" clutch would be the right diagnosis.
It's very possible the clutch system may have been substandard and may have caused premature wear, but the idea is this, that a slipping clutch is noticeable to the driver and so if the clutch disk is worn down to the nubs, there is at least a shared responsibility here.
I'd say (speaking for myself) that if my clutch wore out at say 35K and we disassembled it and found no problem with the pressure plate or TO bearing and the clutch disk was worn down, I'd ask for some sort of "you pay parts, I pay labor" settlement.
After 50,000 miles, the whole idea of a "defect" becomes less and less likely IMO.
Really situations like this boil down to how hard-ass the dealer wants to be with you. He has discretionary monies to make good will repairs (if he's in good stead with the factory).
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [Mr_Shiftright]
by dhejna
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Oct 30, 2006 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 28, 2006 10:17 am)
Thanks for the feedback. I asked the dealer to save the parts (he didn't) but instead sent me pictures. I'm in the process this week of documenting my case.....I'm also going to look into the risks of the hydraulic (vs. cable) clutches installed over the last few years .....I've heard they behave substantially differently - and of course have pros and cons...... one of the cons being that this type of clutch is engineered to clutch "for you" in certain cases.....so will lead to premature wear and tear...
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhejna]
by dhio
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Nov 14, 2006 (4:46 pm)
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Replying to: dhejna (Oct 30, 2006 11:35 am)
I too had my clutch fail at less than 38,000 miles. I was stunned to be told today by the dealership, and later a zone rep from Acura, that they would not replace it because of driver abuse. Basically, they said that they believe because of wear on my tire treads (they claimed the fronts were 'bald' despite the fact that they just passed a state inspection) and the state of the clutch that they think the damage could only be done if I was racing or something. If you knew me, you'd know just how funny this is... I am a 36yo woman who has never raced a car in her life. I drove my Honda Civic for 8 years without a single clutch problem (or other mechanical issue, for that matter) and my TSX goes only from home (in a hilly neighborhood) to work (in a congested downtown area). I don't know how the tires got worn that way, unless it was as I was spinning the tires trying to get the car out of a middle lane on a hill after the clutch went out Saturday.
Anyway, I loved my TSX and I thought I loved Acura, but I'm just baffled by this.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhio]
by clubkitty
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Nov 30, 2006 (4:38 am)
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Replying to: dhio (Nov 14, 2006 4:46 pm)
I also have had my clutch fail at less than 30k. Acura has been very insistent that its simply the fact that women can't drive a manual transmission and maybe some driving lessons would help! I've got over a decade worth of experience driving exclusively MT vehicles and I seriously doubt it's me. I've been dealing with acura since June, and now they tell me it's simply wear & tear. In a car I've owned for less than a year it has spent almost half of that time in the shop for various malfunctions. I go back today to get my car, but I think I know what they're going to stay---
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [clubkitty]
by robr2
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Nov 30, 2006 (7:52 am)
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Replying to: clubkitty (Nov 30, 2006 4:38 am)
Folks - a clutch is a wear part. Typically manufacturers will cover it for 12 months/12K miles as a courtesy but after that, it's considered to be worn.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [robr2]
by johnny420
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Nov 30, 2006 (9:30 am)
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Replying to: robr2 (Nov 30, 2006 7:52 am)
Folks - a clutch is a wear part. Typically manufacturers will cover it for 12 months/12K miles as a courtesy but after that, it's considered to be worn.
Yeah, it's a wear item, but a clutch failing at 30K miles is ridiculous. Short of outright abuse, I can't envision a scenario where normal use would cause this, unless there's something inherently wrong with the clutch assembly.
I've been driving MT equipped vehicles for 29 years, and I've never had a clutch wear out in less than 100K miles, and they usually run out to 120K or so.
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