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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [kmccann]
by dhejna
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Oct 01, 2006 (11:56 am)
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Replying to: kmccann (Sep 30, 2006 5:46 pm)
Hi, I took my 2004 TSX into the shop - they're placing the clutch - they said it is not under warranty - in fact - the dealer said car manufacturer's do not warranty the clutch. I wonder why they consider your's "under warranty." Thanks for the reply - the clutch is a $1700 job - car's got under 50,000 miles.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhejna]
by johnny420
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Oct 02, 2006 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: dhejna (Oct 01, 2006 11:56 am)
The clutch certainly is covered under warranty, but most dealers seem to fight it tooth and nail, claiming driver abuse or something similar. A lot of people do abuse their clutches, but a clutch going out with less than 50K on the odo seems premature.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by dhejna
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Oct 02, 2006 (8:18 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 02, 2006 7:38 am)
I'll have to read the warranty carefully. Thanks for the reply.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by nj2pa2nc
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Oct 04, 2006 (11:03 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 02, 2006 7:38 am)
could you please let me know where you got your information from. I thought the clutch is not covered under warranty- it is a normal wear item. Usually if the clutch is defective you will know way before 50,000 miles. We have been very lucky with the many manual transmission cars we have owned all going over 100,000 miles. We do mostly highway driving so that helps. Stop and go traffic pays havic on clutches.We never rest our foot on it either. Bad habit.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [nj2pa2nc]
by johnny420
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Oct 05, 2006 (9:08 am)
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Replying to: nj2pa2nc (Oct 04, 2006 11:03 am)
The TSX comes with a bumper-to-bumper warranty and the clutch lies between the bumpers. I agree it's a normal wear item, but 50K miles is way premature for a clutch to fail unless it's been hammered on or abused.
I would argue vehemently with the dealer to have this covered. If that doesn't work, contact Acura and deal with them.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by robr2
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Oct 05, 2006 (9:20 am)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 05, 2006 9:08 am)
Typically many clutch parts are excluded from the B to B warranty as they are wear items just like brake pads, wipers, et al.
Usually wear parts in the clutch will be covered for 12K/12 months as they figure nobody should be able to kill a clutch that quickly.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [johnny420]
by dhejna
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Oct 05, 2006 (2:09 pm)
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Replying to: johnny420 (Oct 05, 2006 9:08 am)
Thanks again for your reply. I agree re the prematurity clutch - I live outside SF - bit more hilly around here -- but still ----The service manager is keeping the parts, took pictures of the parts, said he had the "corporate service managers" look at it, etc. and say it is a "wear" problem - that I either "rode the clutch" or the previous owner did (I bought the car with 13K miles). I will pursue with Acura corporate.....unfortuntately, I've got a "bail" the car out today.....it will be a matter of me trying to get my $ back ....thx so much again for your feedback - much appreciated ...
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clutch
by jerseyguy1
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Oct 07, 2006 (9:37 am)
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Cannot comment on Acura clutch warranties but I can tell you that to burn out a modern clutch in 50,000 miles you have to just about intentionally do it. One of my Audis got 185,000 out of its orignal clutch and audi I once had got to 175,000 on its clutch. Mostly in town driving. did not abuse it but did not baby it either.
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [dhejna]
by Mr_Shiftright HOST
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Oct 28, 2006 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: dhejna (Oct 05, 2006 2:09 pm)
If the clutch is removed and the clutch disk is worn down to the rivets, or the flywheel is burned blue and the pressure plate is intact and undamaged, I don't think a "defective" clutch would be the right diagnosis.
It's very possible the clutch system may have been substandard and may have caused premature wear, but the idea is this, that a slipping clutch is noticeable to the driver and so if the clutch disk is worn down to the nubs, there is at least a shared responsibility here.
I'd say (speaking for myself) that if my clutch wore out at say 35K and we disassembled it and found no problem with the pressure plate or TO bearing and the clutch disk was worn down, I'd ask for some sort of "you pay parts, I pay labor" settlement.
After 50,000 miles, the whole idea of a "defect" becomes less and less likely IMO.
Really situations like this boil down to how hard-ass the dealer wants to be with you. He has discretionary monies to make good will repairs (if he's in good stead with the factory).
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Re: 04 TSX MT Clutch Creaking Noise [Mr_Shiftright]
by dhejna
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Oct 30, 2006 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: Mr_Shiftright (Oct 28, 2006 10:17 am)
Thanks for the feedback. I asked the dealer to save the parts (he didn't) but instead sent me pictures. I'm in the process this week of documenting my case.....I'm also going to look into the risks of the hydraulic (vs. cable) clutches installed over the last few years .....I've heard they behave substantially differently - and of course have pros and cons...... one of the cons being that this type of clutch is engineered to clutch "for you" in certain cases.....so will lead to premature wear and tear...
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