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Acura TSX Clutch Problems

94 messages,  Last post on Nov 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM

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Re: Clutch failure [marvincbr] by kasperghost
Mar 01, 2005 (9:01 pm)
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Replying to: marvincbr (Mar 01, 2005 7:45 pm)

Sorry to hear about your pains. Regardless of it being a wearable item- if it fails FAR before the expected life span, it should be "covered" under warranty even if it is not printed in black and white.
 
It is my understanding that modern clutches are designed to last approx. 100 k. before replacement. I would ask what the expected life of the clutch is on a TSX. I would then ask for them to show you the clutch and why they think you were the cause of the failure- abuse will be very evident- if you are not the cause or they cannot say that this is why the clutch failed, I would ask for them to pay for it. Ultimately they can refuse you, but IMHO, they have a weak leg to stand on for not paying for it.
 
Customer pay repairs are the most profitable and far outstrip the money made on warranty- warranty is kind of like Medicaid for cars.
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Re: Clutch failure [marvincbr] by uncledavid
Mar 02, 2005 (2:56 pm)
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Replying to: marvincbr (Mar 01, 2005 7:45 pm)

Marvincbr - I apologize. Based on what some of the other posters here are saying, I stand corrected. I should not have questioned your honesty.
 
In any case, I hope you get this problem resolved at minimal cost to you. I really do think Acura should stand behind you on this one. Assuming you have not done anything negligent, your clutch should last a lot more than 30,000 miles.
 
I wouldn encourage you to send Acura a certified/registered letter. Calling will not preserve all your legal rights.
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Re: Clutch failure [uncledavid] by lmacmil
Mar 11, 2005 (4:40 am)
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Replying to: uncledavid (Mar 02, 2005 2:56 pm)

Makes me wonder if I shouldn't reconsider having a used 2004 6MT on my potential purchase list. If the clutch potentially isn't covered under the warranty, I could be looking at a repair that would eat up any savings from buying used.
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Re: Clutch failure [lmacmil] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 11, 2005 (6:38 am)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Mar 11, 2005 4:40 am)

Clutches are almost universally NOT covered by warranty... by any manufacturer.. they are a "wear" item..
 
So, even if you buy new.. it still won't be covered... but, on the positive side, you'll know how the car was driven..
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Re: Clutch failure [lmacmil] by uncledavid
Mar 11, 2005 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: lmacmil (Mar 11, 2005 4:40 am)

Lmacmil,
 
In all honesty, I wouldn't let this particular issue stop me. Over at the TSX enthusiast site, there are several hundred 6MT drivers. They all run their vehicles hard, and some have already got 50,000+ miles on their cars. Yet, there haven't been many (if any) reports of clutch failures. I think this is an EXTREMELY rare event.
 
If the power is not great enough for you, or the you are worried about the stiff ride, I would stay away from the TSX. But, I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say that this will be a very reliable vehicle overall.
 
Just my opinion though...
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Re: Clutch failure [kasperghost] by 7hondas
Mar 26, 2005 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: kasperghost (Mar 01, 2005 9:01 pm)

After owning 7 Honda/Acura cars, all with manual transmissions, I have never had a clutch failure. That includes a Civic with over 250,000 miles on the original clutch, and a 97 Acura GS-R that was driven anything but easy (traded with 138,000 miles).
 
I'm buying a TSX in the very near future, and I'm on the fence between a 6 sp and auto. I was concerned whether Honda / Acura has fixed the automatic transmission problems they had in the past, but now I wonder if they are starting to have manual transmission problems.
 
How are the automatics holding up?
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Re: Clutch failure [7hondas] by ronabi
Mar 26, 2005 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: 7hondas (Mar 26, 2005 2:49 pm)

7hondas, I have had my 05 TSX 5AT only three months, but I want you to know that I am more than pleased with the AT. It is smooth as glass and at least as responsive as any other AT I have had over many years of car ownership if not more so. That said, I am not a racer, and so don't have some of the same interests that many of the 6MT fans do. While I am not qualified to speak about how it performs over time, I can say that based on my limited experience and on the testimony of others with longer term ownership, I do not expect to see problems of any kind.
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Re: Clutch failure [7hondas] by uncledavid
Mar 30, 2005 (10:38 am)
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Replying to: 7hondas (Mar 26, 2005 2:49 pm)

The problems with Honda Automatics were largely restricted to the 6-cyl engines, and were most problematic in the Acura TL line. There have been some reports of tranny failures in the Accord V6 engines and I believe they extended the warranty on the Prelude line as well.
 
Personally, I put 170,000 miles on Accords with Automatics and never had a single problem.
 
The AT on the TSX is the nicest one Honda has ever produced. The slushbox in my Accord shifted roughly, and was not always in the right gear. The TSX sometimes hesitates a bit before downshifting, but it is really smooth and never hunts gears.
 
I still think the car is happier with the slick 6MT, but the 5AT is a reasonable compromise for those of us who live in traffic.
 
The TSX does have some issues though (stiff ride being my major complaint, and I don't like the tires) but I don't expect the reliablity of the AT to be an issue.
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Re: Clutch failure [uncledavid] by kyfdx HOST
Mar 30, 2005 (11:31 am)
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Replying to: uncledavid (Mar 30, 2005 10:38 am)

I lost a tranny on an '01 Accord 4-cylinder.. Must have been more than just mine, because the warranty was extended to 100K on the tranny (not due to this single failure).
 
However, no drama... just sounded funny, and we took it in...
 
I still put Honda up against any other make for reliability.. 54K miles on that one, and that was the only problem... and Honda took care of it..
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Clutch failure [7hondas] by lmmorgan
Apr 05, 2005 (6:24 pm)
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Replying to: 7hondas (Mar 26, 2005 2:49 pm)

New to the forum, with the TSX on my "short list" of 3 or 4 other vehicles.
 
I'm concerned about the clutch discussion. I once owned an '89 Integra (purchased new) and loved the way the car drove/handled but found the overall ownership experience VERY poor. Coincidentally, one of the things that went wrong was the clutch, at 19K. Arguing with the dealer that I had never had a clutch on any car last me less than 100K did no good.
 
It seems this may be a notoriously weak component, if I'm still hearing the same sort of stories 15 years later.
 
Incidentally, the tramlining thing was common to my Integra as well. A set of Pirelli P77s in lieu of the OEM Michelins helped a lot. Fixed the cars tendency to seek trees and ditches in the rain, as well.

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